Ragtag Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I know there were a few folks interested in these wagons on the old forum. I noticed today that Model Rail have posted a picture of Hornby's OTA prototype on their twitter feed: http://twitpic.com/160q6c/full Enjoy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 3, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2010 Well since no-one else has commented yet..... Thanks for posting that Ragtag. It comes up very big & grainy when I click the link, but shrinks down when the "return to photo page" link is clicked. Can't comment on accuracy but seems to be a good 1st go. It looks like Hornby have copied Bachmann in having the spings fixed to the solebars & (possibly) moving w-irons behind. Looking forward to the finished article, something I would like a few of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 This looks promising. I wonder if this will be the only version or if there are plans for the VDA cut down OTA's, with the fishbelly underframe, round top ends and prototypical sharp edgeds where the sides were hacked off. If not I'll just do that same job on a Bachmann VDA. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zabdiel Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Ginge has posted a couple of pics of the Anglia version of the Heljan 86 posing on Dagworth at the show with kinder lighting See http://gingespotting-models.fotopic.net/c1820608_37.html Which also includes some more shots of the Hornby OTA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 3, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2010 This looks promising. I wonder if this will be the only version or if there are plans for the VDA cut down OTA's, with the fishbelly underframe, round top ends and prototypical sharp edgeds where the sides were hacked off. If not I'll just do that same job on a Bachmann VDA. Mark I would have thought Hornby will only want to do 1 chassis & work the variations on that - the fact that Bachmann already do the VDA would put Hornby off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I would have thought Hornby will only want to do 1 chassis & work the variations on that - the fact that Bachmann already do the VDA would put Hornby off? Yup they probably thought that us lot would be right out with the blades ready to hack away if we wanted a different one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Just as I moan about Hornby's choice of Chassis.. Bachmann go and announce the VDA conversion OTA. I wonder if there are any other fates I can tempt!!. This is what we used to see up here on the Aberdeen to Inverness Line when timber actually went by Rail. If you look closely you can see where the Roof looks like someone used a can opener to take it off! Rgds Mark 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Any wagers that these will be released just as I complete my Cambrian kits? It's an interesting choice from Bachmann, and I'll certainly be having several of each of them. Here's an unusual variant which I believe was classed as an OTA-E: http://ukrailrolling.../p22242068.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60B Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 There is a third variant tht was similar to the ex-OCA but without the un-parrallel top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 There is a third variant tht was similar to the ex-OCA but without the un-parrallel top. As I recall (and I could be wrong, these wagons are a minefield), the wagons with straight-topped ends were the original ex-OCA conversions. Most but probably not all were later rebuilt into the higher 'notched' appearance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANT Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Hello I will need a couple of rakes of these for Rannoch Junction. Will these come with log loads? Thanks SEEYA ANT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Small pic of progress on these in Hornby mag - mentions that different stanchion patterns will be available, which is encouraging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Hi, There's a picture of them and the KFA in the latest issue of Railway Modeller (January 2011) of painted versions from Warley Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted December 18, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2010 As I recall (and I could be wrong, these wagons are a minefield), the wagons with straight-topped ends were the original ex-OCA conversions. Most but probably not all were later rebuilt into the higher 'notched' appearance Hi Ian, Correct - these wagons are a minefield! I made a start some time ago trying to sort and split the various types and what they were converted from etc. Yes - the straight topped end ones were originally OCA. Yes - most (that survived long enough) had rebuilt high ends. However I have some gaps in the numbers where I don't know, can't find out or were no longer listed and these may or may not have been given new or extended ends. However, I'm hoping to get something in UPDate at some stage. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Hi Ian, Correct - these wagons are a minefield! I made a start some time ago trying to sort and split the various types and what they were converted from etc. Yes - the straight topped end ones were originally OCA. Yes - most (that survived long enough) had rebuilt high ends. However I have some gaps in the numbers where I don't know, can't find out or were no longer listed and these may or may not have been given new or extended ends. However, I'm hoping to get something in UPDate at some stage. Thanks Phil Most of the OTA's that were dumped out the back of Guild Street Aberdeen, Inverurie and Elgin were the ex-VDA conversions, as shown previously complete with jaggy edges at the ends. Rgds Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted December 19, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2010 Phil Most of the OTA's that were dumped out the back of Guild Street Aberdeen, Inverurie and Elgin were the ex-VDA conversions, as shown previously complete with jaggy edges at the ends. Rgds Mark Hi Mark, Believe it or not... The ex VDA's were one of the simplest groups to sort out! They seem to have been very well covered by a lot of different photographers. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Hi, Kernow Model Centre are now advertising that the OTA's in EWS livery are now in stock and they have photos: R6466: http://www.kernowmod..._Carrying_Wagon R5467: http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/product/26999/R6467_Hornby_OTA_Timber_Carrying_Wagon EDIT: Hattons have a limited number (3) of R6467 as well: http://www.ehattons.com/StockDetail.aspx?SID=25854 Looks good! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted March 30, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2011 Oooh - that's good news. Just want the older livery to turn up now.... (Looks like Hattons stock has already gone!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 OTAs in stock at Arcadia Models, Shaw today. Look very tasty so waiting for older version with relish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wummyock Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Saw the EWS livery model today in Exeter Model Shop and it looked superb in my eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Flynn Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Hi called in at Wakefield model centre today ,Hornby sent them 1 only so didnt even see it as it sold as soon as it was put out. Hugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted April 12, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2011 I've had chance to look at the Hornby EWS OTA at the Exeter Model Shop today (thanks, Dave!). they look to be rather nice with some representation of the air brake undergubbins. The stanchions are the same as those shown in mark "westie7"s pictures above. I have no idea when these stanchions came into use, but the images on Paul Bartlett's site (like this one ) have different stanchions & it looks like Hornby's other livery version will have that pattern. I *think* these may be more appropriate for late 80s versions, so they're the ones I'll be wanting to get - shame they will be in the all over blue-green livery, I'd prefer the black solebars & red end for Railfreight use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ews60002 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Hi, Any idea's on when the OTA timber loads will be released by Hornby for them, Made my own with real twigs and there is no way that i'm going to do a rake of 14 wagons by cutting twigs from trees to simulate the load. Regards Mathew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ews60002 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Hi, Does this look real or is it too over scale or is it just right.. I haven't added any strapping to the load yet, trying to find the right look for them. Mathew 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ews60002 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 The whole process of getting the right size and lenght of twig for the wagon load took about 2-3 hours, The problem was that cutting twigs from trees and hedges made making the loads harder because the twig is in effect still a living organism, once it gets cut the twig will shrink and bend over a small period of time so if you were to put the load on a wagon and glue it down with wood glue the wood will change shape. so the best type of wood is ones that are dead, this also makes the effect of the wood more realistic once glued down and in position. Once I had got the amount of wood to use, I set about in sawing the wood into the correct size by using a small hacksaw and I also used a pair of wire cutters to chop them into shape. Many many twigs later I had the right amount to build one pile on the wagon, put a layer on the wagon floor then a small amount of wood glue onto the top but not allowing the glue to go near the edge as it will show on the outside and just keep building layers till you get to the top of the stantions. I did that for the end pieces and set about doing the inner section, You do this the same way as the ends but make sure that the pieces of wood are longer that the three middle stantions or it will look out of place if you had a piece of wood that was smaller than the three stantions and if it was a real train the chances of the wood shifting and sticking out would be greater. The wood glue needs to take a good 24 hours to set and dry but i'm happy with the results of the wagon. all's it need's now is a good representation of the strapping to hold the load in. I'm not sure if I'll do the other wagons in the same way but I could do it to pass the time away over the easter break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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