RMweb Gold 96701 Posted February 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2018 Vote H. It is at 81% and ranked 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I finally got round to buying a SLW 24 and am very pleased with it. Here it is alongside a Bachmann one: P1080218am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2018 Shame about the reversed MU cable on the Bacchy isn't it! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I finally got round to buying a SLW 24 and am very pleased with it. Here it is alongside a Bachmann one: P1080218am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Although the SLW model clearly has a lot of plus points over the Bachmann one, the colour of Green and the glazing on the Bachmann model look better to me; the SLW glazing looks a bit more ..prismatic? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2018 I finally got round to buying a SLW 24 and am very pleased with it. Here it is alongside a Bachmann one: P1080218am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Ah, I see the difference clearly: one shows a class A train, the other a class D. So that’s what all the fuss was about... [in truth, I thought the Bachmann model looked wrong from day 1.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 First thing you notice is the cab hand rails Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Windscreen wiper Arms ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 The SLW one has the correct early exhaust: P1080220am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6975 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Vote H. I don't know how many times I have to tell you. It was reported somewhere that the number of votes required for G and H were higher than for A-F because of the extra work required for the revised body shape. If this is indeed true, then I suspect that G and H are inextricably linked, production of one would almost certainly make production of the other a no-brainer because the cost of producing the second would immediately drop due to this work having been already done for the first. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 The SLW has the correct taper to the cab sides, not the flat body side of the Bachmann version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted March 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2018 I finally got round to buying a SLW 24 and am very pleased with it. Here it is alongside a Bachmann one: P1080218am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Really good comparison shot so clearly showing what a complete mess Bachmann made of the cab front let alone the roof details. What I can't work out, looking at available scale drawings, is how they managed it. Still, the Sutton 24 wouldn't probably have existed if they had done a decent job. Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted March 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2018 Really good comparison shot so clearly showing what a complete mess Bachmann made of the cab front let alone the roof details. What I can't work out, looking at available scale drawings, is how they managed it. Still, the Sutton 24 wouldn't probably have existed if they had done a decent job. What I can’t work out, is how so many modellers came to tolerate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Can someone post a from above photo of the two manufacturers models side by side. It will show the fault in the Bachmann version. If you look at the photo of the two from the front you can see the cab roof and the arc is to the correct height in the middle and the ends, but the cab being too wide (look at the outsides of the cab windows) makes the arc of the cab roof the wrong shape. Even Hornby managed to get this right how many years ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenn Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I finally got round to buying a SLW 24 and am very pleased with it. Here it is alongside a Bachmann one: P1080218am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Well......no comparison really....is there......I see the 21/20 EPs are up on the Dapol site can they be as good as SWL...glad i got the my order in for the Research 24 and it'll cost less the the Modelzone version on E-bay B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Can someone post a from above photo of the two manufacturers models side by side. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted March 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2018 SLW-Class-24-066-editSm© PwD.jpg P What it shows me is that the Bachmann cab DOES taper in - perhaps not as much as the SWL version, but it tapers none-the-less. (Lights blue touch paper and retires to a safe(?) distance). Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 It does show how the cab taper isn`t enough and throws out the shape of the cab roof. It also shows how the cab side pillars are too think, as the windows actually line up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 What it shows me is that the Bachmann cab DOES taper in - perhaps not as much as the SWL version, but it tapers none-the-less. (Lights blue touch paper and retires to a safe(?) distance). Regards, John Isherwood. The Bachmann 24 was and still is a good model but there is always room for improvement which SWL have done in a big way. Dare I say some people even love the Hornby 25 and still use it as a base. We shouldn't shot Bachmann down but be thankful of what they have given us just as much as what SLW has done. One day we all may drool over a 24 that comes with lights, sound, opening doors, exhaust, auto coupling/decoupling, headcodes that change and even take itself out of it's box but until then lets be thankful for what we have now. ( now that's how to light the blue touch paper lol ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 No, that's not how to light the blue touch paper. How about SLW doing the best type 2, the class 31 next? After all, they are still going even now on the national network, long after all the rats have gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 How about SLW doing the best type 2, the class 31 next? After all, they are still going even now on the national network, long after all the rats have gone. There are none on the national network and there not a sulzer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) No, that's not how to light the blue touch paper. How about SLW doing the best type 2, the class 31 next? After all, they are still going even now on the national network, long after all the rats have gone. A keystone of SLW is to provide museum quality traction for the P4 layout Mostyn representing the North Wales coast in BR blue era, the conclusion may be the 25 as the next development, Bachmann have possibly arrived at the same conclusion ,the recent announcement of a newly tooled class 25 Edited March 5, 2018 by Pandora Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) What I can’t work out, is how so many modellers came to tolerate it. That's easy: it had a very quiet, smooth and powerful mechanism, way ahead of the Hornby class 25, which was the only alternative at the time. The appearance was off at the ends, but overall it still looked like a class 24 or 25. The price used to be very reasonable too, and many were available as bargains with sound fitted. I'm talking the price of a sound decoder with a £10 locomotive thrown in ... that's how I came to own several of both classes from Bachmann. Edited March 5, 2018 by SRman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 That's easy: it had a very quiet, smooth and powerful mechanism, way ahead of the Hornby class 25, which was the only alternative at the time. The appearance was off at the ends, but overall it still looked like a class 24 or 25. The price used to be very reasonable too, and many were available as bargains with sound fitted. I'm talking the price of a sound decoder with a £10 locomotive thrown in ... that's how I came to own several of both classes from Bachmann. Exactly, I remember buying a pair for £70, putting them on the track and thinking how well they ran. As "layout" locos they were a very welcome addition. Now we know a bit better, and expect a bit more accuracy. John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 For anyone that wants an SLW 24, I see from another thread here that there is one on EBay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) I finally got round to buying a SLW 24 and am very pleased with it. Here it is alongside a Bachmann one: P1080218am by Robert Carroll, on Flickr Could I suggest it would be helpful to adjust underexposed photos, especially if linking to Private 3rd party sites before posting. I couldn't see the differences fully until I did this myself. Edited March 5, 2018 by BWsTrains Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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