MGR Hooper! Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 first to hit the shops is out http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55133/1100-Heljan-4-Wheel-B-Tank-Wagon---Heljan-60th-Anniversary Neat little wagon for the collector's or a modeler's showcase! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2016 first to hit the shops is out http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55133/1100-Heljan-4-Wheel-B-Tank-Wagon---Heljan-60th-Anniversary I am going to come straight out and say I like it! Don't want a rake of them but as special edition liveries go I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Comments on the model rather than the livery? The gaps in the plating over the frame inboard of the buffers, see: https://www.flickr.com/photos/126672348@N06/15222230221/in/photostream/, don't seem to be evident? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2016 Comments on the model rather than the livery? The gaps in the plating over the frame inboard of the buffers, see: https://www.flickr.com/photos/126672348@N06/15222230221/in/photostream/, don't seem to be evident? I did wonder.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Comments on the model rather than the livery? The gaps in the plating over the frame inboard of the buffers Contrasted with the grooves between the tank plates. These surely aren't rivetted to a frame on the prototype, but welded together. So this is one case where the model ought if anything have raised lines to represent the weld bead. The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) They are rivetted with open framework http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/cegbtankwagon/eb7353ad From memory this is correct on the Airfix / Dapol kit. Paul Edited November 23, 2016 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 Were these tanks only formed in block trains when first introduced and, if so, when did they start to be used for wagon-load traffic? I wouldn't mind a couple but a couple of dozen is out of the question for me. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 Post Beeching all oil traffic was moving towards block trains and these certainly featured in a such few traffic flows - Cardiff - Soho Pool in Brum to name but one. You will always get a few in other traffic though - even if just travelling to/from maintenance or repair facilities. If all else fails....Its your railway .... apply rule 1 ! Kind regards Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted November 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 I'm intrigued as to why Heljan are selling four packs all with the same Esso number. Surely it would make more sense to have four different? The airfix version was the very first railway kit I'd built, ca 1975 complete with wobbly chassis, long since landfill. I'm looking to buy a few of these. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted November 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 I'm intrigued as to why Heljan are selling four packs all with the same Esso number. Surely it would make more sense to have four different? The airfix version was the very first railway kit I'd built, ca 1975 complete with wobbly chassis, long since landfill. I'm looking to buy a few of these. Neil Are the 4 packs by Heljan themselves or just from the likes of Hattons (who offer greater discounts on multiple purchase packs of the same item)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted November 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 I'd seen them advertised by Hattons, so it's possible it's just from them. Still odd that the multipacks all have the same Esso number. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 I find it strange that a 50 year old, two bob, pre computerisation plastic kit is better than a modern offering. With the "in the pipeline" upgrade kit it really is a no brainer. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 From my point of view as a customer, I think Hatton‘s misses a trick by not selling packs of four with different numbers when these are available. From Hatton’s point of view, it’s probably quicker to pick four from the same box than pick four from different boxes, making the small discount, I mean “bargain”, viable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waveydavey Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I find it strange that a 50 year old, two bob, pre computerisation plastic kit is better than a modern offering. With the "in the pipeline" upgrade kit it really is a no brainer. Mike. And how many years has the upgrade kit been in the pipeline Mike? Are we up to ten yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 From my point of view as a customer, I think Hatton‘s misses a trick by not selling packs of four with different numbers when these are available. From Hatton’s point of view, it’s probably quicker to pick four from the same box than pick four from different boxes, making the small discount, I mean “bargain”, viable. The 'packs of four' are simply the intermediate packs within the outer carton, so that all Hattons have to do is to open the outer carton. I've bought a couple of these offers, and the packaging on them was as it left the factory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 And how many years has the upgrade kit been in the pipeline Mike? Are we up to ten yet? However the one produced by his competitor retains the worst part of the original Airfix kit the Solebar! Mark Saunders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Comments on the model rather than the livery? The gaps in the plating over the frame inboard of the buffers, see: https://www.flickr.com/photos/126672348@N06/15222230221/in/photostream/, don't seem to be evident? Neither does the dent in the end... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2016 Interesting I had assumed the multipacks were Heljan's - they do have history with dogfish multipacks - but they don't appear on the Heljan web site , nor on other vendor's sites either So that probably increases probability they are a Hattons jobbie. So dilemma - if I want unbranded Regent tanks which do I start with - the Regent or the departmental? Regent requires removal of large company logo and renumbering .... departmentals just require renumbering. Got to be the latter I think although sounds perverse.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 Thanks Andy - those look smashing! Unless my eyes deceive me those Regent logos are on an oval plate as per the originals? Hopefully easy to remove for debranding... Shiny wheels - but nothing a quick coat of wheel muck paint wont fix... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Unless my eyes deceive me those Regent logos are on an oval plate as per the originals? Hopefully easy to remove for debranding... That's correct; as with the Esso equivalents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Oh dear - just told SWMBO I wanted some for Xmas , she says its too big and ugly! Better persuade her to stick to baking millionaires shortbread rather than judging models! Phil Edited November 28, 2016 by Phil Bullock 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 she says its too big and ugly! Your wife's a lovely lady but obviously very mean. Better persuade her to stick to baking millionaires shortbread rather than judging models! Aah; I may have a lead on the mystery cake which appeared in the photo box when I was away on manoeuvres. Was that you Phil? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hee hee could be.... The fritillary napkin might be a give away! That's SWMBO's shortbread - surprised it was still there when you got back, I got ambushed elsewhere in the hall once it was realised I was carrying supplies. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 surprised it was still there when you got back, I am too with Mr. Parker's reputation. Thank you very much, it was lovely and please pass on my thanks to Mrs B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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