Photo's Of East Yorkshire Railways

[John Isherwood]

1 hour ago, Market65 said:

Note the water filler cap is up by mistake maybe….

 

 

 

A very common 'mistake', if photos of the period are anything to go by!

 

CJI.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. Firstly, I’m a bit late this evening owing to some internet issues, but things seem to have finally settled back down. So onto more photo’s, again by John Turner, on Flickr. The first one is WD, Austerity, 90627,  at North Ferriby with a Hull bound Class H train of coal, on the 26th October,1963.

 

The second photo’ is something a bit different. It is of an LNER, 13T, Low Sided Wagon, a “Lowfit", E220768, built at Darlington in 1938, to Diagram 109, and it is loaded with a Ford Anglia motor car. It is seen at Hessle, on the 25th June, 1963.

 

Now we return to Whitedale for tonight’s final photo’. It is of a four car hybrid DMU, with a class 101 DMCL, and then three class 104 cars. The unit is seen entering the station at Whitedale, with a local service from Hornsea to Hull, in about August, 1964.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[micknich2003]

Whitedale, various signal documents.

[45125]

2 hours ago, Market65 said:

Good evening, everyone. Firstly, I’m a bit late this evening owing to some internet issues, but things seem to have finally settled back down. So onto more photo’s, again by John Turner, on Flickr. The first one is WD, Austerity, 90627,  at North Ferriby with a Hull bound Class H train of coal, on the 26th October,1963.

 

The second photo’ is something a bit different. It is of an LNER, 13T, Low Sided Wagon, a “Lowfit", E220768, built at Darlington in 1938, to Diagram 109, and it is loaded with a Ford Anglia motor car. It is seen at Hessle, on the 25th June, 1963.

 

Now we return to Whitedale for tonight’s final photo’. It is of a four car hybrid DMU, with a class 101 DMCL, and then three class 104 cars. The unit is seen entering the station at Whitedale, with a local service from Hornsea to Hull, in about August, 1964.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

Not a 101, but a 111DMCL the radiator, exhaust pipe and battery box are the giveaway signs. Which would suggest that it is a NL unit thats has been borrowed hence the lack of destination blind.

Edited January 29, 2023 by 45125

[Stoke West]

On 22/01/2023 at 19:14, Market65 said:

Good evening, everyone. Thank you, Mick, for posting those diagrams of the layout at Hessle Quarry, they are most informative. 
It’s interesting to find out more about the Plymouth fish train, which unfortunately, would cease when fish was no longer conveyed by train.

 

This evening, we have another two photo’s by John Turner, on Flickr, of Ivatt, 4MT, 43077, as it heads an empty stock train to Brough, at Hessle, where it will run round its train and form the Fridays Only 12:15 (approx) Brough to Hull service for workers at the nearby aircraft factory, on the 22nd November, 1963.

 

And this photo’, on the same date, shows WD, Austerity, 90272, running non-stop through Hessle station with a Hull bound, Class F, unfitted express freight, with two, presumably empty, tank wagons at the front.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

No one else has noticed  90272 this train should be stop and examine look at 13th or 14th vehicle

[heavymetalwagons]

14 hours ago, Market65 said:

Good evening, everyone. Firstly, I’m a bit late this evening owing to some internet issues, but things seem to have finally settled back down. So onto more photo’s, again by John Turner, on Flickr. The first one is WD, Austerity, 90627,  at North Ferriby with a Hull bound Class H train of coal, on the 26th October,1963.

 

The second photo’ is something a bit different. It is of an LNER, 13T, Low Sided Wagon, a “Lowfit", E220768, built at Darlington in 1938, to Diagram 109, and it is loaded with a Ford Anglia motor car. It is seen at Hessle, on the 25th June, 1963.

 

Now we return to Whitedale for tonight’s final photo’. It is of a four car hybrid DMU, with a class 101 DMCL, and then three class 104 cars. The unit is seen entering the station at Whitedale, with a local service from Hornsea to Hull, in about August, 1964.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

the hopper wagon behind the loco in the first picture looks interesting!!! 

[MikeParkin65]

On 28/01/2023 at 20:33, cctransuk said:

 

A very common 'mistake', if photos of the period are anything to go by!

 

CJI.

I've read elsewhere that crews started leaving the filler tops open to prevent them freezing shut. Doesnt look like a winter photo but I wonder of a legacy of this was that the hinges rusted and the tops then became difficult to close again? Then steam being on its last legs anyway the problem was just ignored?

[45125]

13 hours ago, Stoke West said:

No one else has noticed  90272 this train should be stop and examine look at 13th or 14th vehicle

It will be examined in a bout a mile as next stop will be on the hump. By the time Hessle box notices the "hot box" it will be on the hump. Reported a few myself when spotting a Hessle and the box just let them know on the hump.

 

Al Taylor

[John Isherwood]

38 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said:

I've read elsewhere that crews started leaving the filler tops open to prevent them freezing shut. Doesnt look like a winter photo but I wonder of a legacy of this was that the hinges rusted and the tops then became difficult to close again? Then steam being on its last legs anyway the problem was just ignored?

 

Sounds likely - my impression is that it only became commonplace at the end of steam.

 

CJI.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening, with thanks once more to John Turner, on Flickr, we go to Bridlington and see a BR green liveried Brush Type 2, D5845, accelerating away from Bridlington with a south bound Class 1 passenger train in circa August, 1964. According to some comments on Flickr, the train, if the headcode is 1F87, is a returning excursion to Sheffield Midland.

 

Now, in Driffield, we see pair of Thompson B1 locomotives, with 61012, “Puku", nearest the camera, running light engine , and approaching Wansford signal box, en-route to either Bridlington or Filey Holiday Camp in circa June, 1964.

 

 

And, finally, WD, 90573, of Mexborough, 41F, passes Brough Gas Works with a Hull bound Class K freight, on the 20th July, 1963.

The GWR-style smokebox door number plate, and the star symbol of the off-side cylinder casing, will be noted. Possibly a 41F embellishment, according to the caption.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[John Isherwood]

1 hour ago, Market65 said:

Good evening, everyone. This evening, with thanks once more to John Turner, on Flickr, we go to Bridlington and see a BR green liveried Brush Type 2, D5845, accelerating away from Bridlington with a south bound Class 1 passenger train in circa August, 1964. According to some comments on Flickr, the train, if the headcode is 1F87, is a returning excursion to Sheffield Midland.

 

Now, in Driffield, we see pair of Thompson B1 locomotives, with 61012, “Puku", nearest the camera, running light engine , and approaching Wansford signal box, en-route to either Bridlington or Filey Holiday Camp in circa June, 1964.

 

 

And, finally, WD, 90573, of Mexborough, 41F, passes Brough Gas Works with a Hull bound Class K freight, on the 20th July, 1963.

The GWR-style smokebox door number plate, and the star symbol of the off-side cylinder casing, will be noted. Possibly a 41F embellishment, according to the caption.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

 

That top-feed is, I think, non-standard - a Swindon feature?

 

CJI.

[Market65]

Thank you, CJI, that’s quite right about that WD’s topfeed. Strangely it is not mentioned in the caption, on Flickr. I know Bachmann have made a WR, WD, complete with that type of topfeed in the past. I think it shows that many different locomotives as well as rolling stock could be seen in Hull and East Yorkshire, especially after WW2.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[The Stationmaster]

18 hours ago, Market65 said:

Good evening, everyone. This evening, with thanks once more to John Turner, on Flickr, we go to Bridlington and see a BR green liveried Brush Type 2, D5845, accelerating away from Bridlington with a south bound Class 1 passenger train in circa August, 1964. According to some comments on Flickr, the train, if the headcode is 1F87, is a returning excursion to Sheffield Midland.

 

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Best regards,

 

 Rob.

If it was a service train to Sheffield the headcode should be 1 E.. because in 1964 Brid to Sheffield would have been an inter-Regional move.  And if it was an excursion it would have been either 1X.. or 1Z.. (depending on the way the NER used X and Z).  Ao although the loco was Sheffield based was the train going there or not and was it actually 1E87 or had the headcode not been changed from a previous working?

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. Well, this evening we have a couple more photo’s thanks to John Turner, on Flickr. The first photo’ is of WD, 90272, as it passes Hessle Quarry on it’s way to Hull, with a down class H freight train in circa 1964.

 

And this photo’ shows a Dairycoates B1, 61255, alongside Bridlington South signalbox, possibly shunting those carriages of which the third one looks like a Hawksworth SK, in circa 1963.

 

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

 

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. With many thanks again to John Turner, on Flickr, we see, in the first of two photo’s, Dairycoates allocated WD, "Austerity", 90009, as it departs from Saltend with the J2 pilot working conveying a trainload of 35T, GLW, petroleum tank wagons, in about 1966.

 

And, in this second photo’, we can see an unidentifiable WD, “Austerity", 2-8-0, as it trundles along the docks' line, at Ella Street, Hull, on the 19th August, 1963.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening, with thanks again to John Turner, on Flickr, we have a couple of photo’s, of which the first one is a portrait shot of Thompson B16/3, 4-6-0, 61463, running light engine at Staddlethorpe, and heads towards Hull, on the 14th September, 1963. 
 

And this second photo’ shows WD, Austerity, 90462, complete with snowplough, which was transferred from Thornaby to Dairycoates, in August, 1963. It is pictured entering Hessle station with a Hull bound Class H freight, in about February, 1964.

 

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[russ p]

On 31/01/2023 at 19:14, Market65 said:

Good evening, everyone. Well, this evening we have a couple more photo’s thanks to John Turner, on Flickr. The first photo’ is of WD, 90272, as it passes Hessle Quarry on it’s way to Hull, with a down class H freight train in circa 1964.

 

And this photo’ shows a Dairycoates B1, 61255, alongside Bridlington South signalbox, possibly shunting those carriages of which the third one looks like a Hawksworth SK, in circa 1963.

 

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

 

 

Evening Rob,  just  looked at this again.  What is the third coach in the second  picture ? It looks at first  glance  like a collett but why would that be up in Yorkshire.  Mk1 seems odd between that and a stanier as coaches ether side of it would  require gangway adaptors 

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone, and russ p, I think the third carriage in the photo’ which you have pointed out from Tuesday, is probably, like I said in the caption, a Hawksworth SK. I can just make out the domed end to the roof. The doirs and windows seem to agree with that too.

 

Well, this evening we are modernnised, with thanks once again to John Turner, and Ian Fleming, on Flickr, with locally allocated, 03137, complete with it’s match truck, running light engine past the entrance to Botanic Gardens, BG, TMD, on the 11th July, 1975.

 

And this second photo’, with the same credits, shows WD, Austerity, 90265, as it takes the "up Goole branch" line, from Staddlethorpe Junction, with a Class H train of tank wagons, on the 18th January, 1964.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

Edited February 3, 2023 by Market65
To insert a name.

[RFS]

On 30/01/2023 at 19:42, Market65 said:

Thank you, CJI, that’s quite right about that WD’s topfeed. Strangely it is not mentioned in the caption, on Flickr. I know Bachmann have made a WR, WD, complete with that type of topfeed in the past. I think it shows that many different locomotives as well as rolling stock could be seen in Hull and East Yorkshire, especially after WW2.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

 

I think another characteristic of WR-allocated WDs was the provision of casing on the RH running plate for the fire irons. Evident on the picture of 90573, but absent on the later pictures of 90272 and 90462.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. Firstly, thank you, Robert Smith, for the extra information about WR WD’s. I had a friend who was very keen on WD’s, and the only WR example he had on his layout, had such a casing on the right hand side of the footplate. Sadly I have no photo’s I can post of it on his layout.

 

Now, this evening we have three photo’s, of which the first two are by John Turner, on Flickr. This first photo’ is of an unidentifiable WD "Austerity" 2-8-0, and a Thompson, B1, 4-6-0, as silhouetted by the low evening sunshine, near the coaling stage at Dairycoates, next  to the Dairycoates West signalbox, on the left, in about 1966.

 

The second photo’ shows a driver and fireman walking towards the running sheds at the start of their shifts at Dairycoates  depot, whilst WD, Austerity’s, with 90670 (leading) and 90016, make their combined way towards the "Cracker", the local name for the coaling stage, in again about 1966.

 

And the third photo’, is by Paul Kearley, and shows, again, at Dairycoates, around one of the turntables,  a class A7, 69778, along with two N8’s, 69393 and 69385.  The date is the 18th May, 1952.
 

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening, with thanks again to John Turner, on Flickr, we, in this first of three photo’s see WD, Austerity, 8F, 2-8-0, 90704, inside one of the roundhouses at Dairycoates, in about 1966. Apologies are given for the grainy photo’, but it’s a record of the way things once were.

 

And, in this second photo’, a truly great shot of locomotives around a turntable in Dairycoates shed, with a couple of unidentifiable 350hp 0-6-0 shunters, along with, from left to right, 61306, 90695, 90450, 90057, 90478, 61012 (formerly named "Puku") and 90462, again in about 1966. Sadly all but 61306, and maybe one of the diesel shunters have been scrapped.

 

 

Finally, a photo’ of the Middlesbrough depot, Cravens, NER, 25T, steam breakdown crane, DE331153, complete with 6-wheel match wagon, DE901695, at Dairycoates, in again circa 1966. No information is available about why the crane was at Dairycoates.

 

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[russ p]

Evening Rob . If the crane is still marked Middlesbrough it certainly wouldn't have allocated to Middlesbrough by then as the depot closed in 58 when Thornaby opened 

From an previous picture I hadn't released A7ss got similar smokebox doors to later J27 ones 

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone, and thank you, russ p, that’s most useful information regarding the breakdown crane, and the smokebox doors on the A7’s.

 

Now, this evening, with thanks to Ian Fleming and John Turner, on Flickr, we go to Cottingham, we see TOPS numbered 31146, still retaining the early blue livery with cabside BR "arrows", as it approaches Cottingham with train 1J20, the 08:30 Scarborough to Sheffield, on the 26th July, 1974. The information is from the caption on Flickr, so I’m sure how accurate it may be, but the  second character in the headcode box may or may not be a J.

 

The second photo’, by John Turner, on Flickr, is of Riddles WD, Austerity, 90458, which appears to be providing some entertainment for its footplate crew at Dairycoates, in circa 1966.

 

And, finally, a photo’ with the same credit, is of another WD, Austerity, this one being 90016, about to go under the "Cracker" - the coaling stage - at Dairycoates, in again circa 1966. According to a comment, on Flickr, the coaling stage was built in 1916, by Spencer & Co Ltd., Engineers, of Melksham.

 

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[Market65]

Good evening, everyone. This evening, with thanks again to John Turner, on Flickr, we see, in its last year of BR service, Neville Hill depot's, Gresley A3, 4-6-2, 60086, Gainsborough, as it makes a steady departure from Hull Paragon with a Class C parcels train, on the 8th February, 1962. According to the extended caption, on Flickr, the train was a midday departure to Leeds. 
 

And now, with the same credit, WD, Austerity, 90265, shares the roundhouse at Dairycoates, with 90458 & B1, 61255, in circa 1966.

 

Best regards,

 

 Rob.

[45125]

Cranes that came from depots that closed would often be kept as spare( if they were in good order ) to cover for other going for overhaul. The Shirebrook crane had this honour several times.

 

Al Taylor