kiwitrains Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 You might find that Steve at Railtec may be able to fire up his new machine to do those for you. http://www.railtec-models.com/index.php Usual disclaimers, just a satisfied customer Jinty Thanks will give them a try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Hi all. For anyone interested, I have started on a detailing project to make the Heljan 25 cabs a little more 25ish. Updates can be found here..... https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Hi all. I've managed to finish the butchery of the Heljan/JLTRT cab fronts. The results can be seen here..... https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Hi all. I've managed to finish the butchery of the Heljan/JLTRT cab fronts. The results can be seen here..... https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ Cheers. Sean. Tried to have a look but I don't do facebook so can't seem to view it - any chance of a picture on here as I'd like to see what you have done - sounds good.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Tried to have a look but I don't do facebook so can't seem to view it - any chance of a picture on here as I'd like to see what you have done - sounds good.... Hi deltic17. Thanks for your interest. If you pop onto Western Thunder, I have been running a thread there. http://westernthunder.co.uk/index.php?threads/just-like-the-helbeat-25.5630/ Or Modellers United too..... http://www.modellersunited.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1119 Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) I see you are not modelling the Darlington flat fronted variety Sean Edited December 9, 2016 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Hi deltic17. Thanks for your interest. If you pop onto Western Thunder, I have been running a thread there. http://westernthunder.co.uk/index.php?threads/just-like-the-helbeat-25.5630/ Or Modellers United too..... http://www.modellersunited.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1119 Cheers. Sean. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the update on Western Thunder - all I can say is it looks fantastic and well worth the effort. I have recently cut the cabs off my Heljan class 40 as they were too vertical and refitted them and it looks so much better - I will be posting an update/photos on RMWeb shortly. When you make your first cut to a £500 loco you do question what you are doing but if you plan it well it is worth it in the end. Do JLTRT sell cabs separately do you know? as I might need to do something similar on the Heljan Peak when it appears as I don't really need a centre split version as is being produced. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the update on Western Thunder - all I can say is it looks fantastic and well worth the effort. I have recently cut the cabs off my Heljan class 40 as they were too vertical and refitted them and it looks so much better - I will be posting an update/photos on RMWeb shortly. When you make your first cut to a £500 loco you do question what you are doing but if you plan it well it is worth it in the end. Do JLTRT sell cabs separately do you know? as I might need to do something similar on the Heljan Peak when it appears as I don't really need a centre split version as is being produced. Who said it cost £500 Deltic17.....? I know what you mean about that first cut though. Always that "have I done the right thing" moment! I think if you speak to Laurie at JLTRT either by email or at the shows, he will advise what is available. Out of interest, which version are you after as the single piece class 46 type grill is the same dimensions as the split centre box minus the centre bar. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Who said it cost £500 Deltic17.....? I know what you mean about that first cut though. Always that "have I done the right thing" moment! I think if you speak to Laurie at JLTRT either by email or at the shows, he will advise what is available. Out of interest, which version are you after as the single piece class 46 type grill is the same dimensions as the split centre box minus the centre bar. Cheers. Sean. Thanks for your reply - I was thinking of converting one to a centre split 46 and as you say that should be easy'ish'. A later marker light version would also be on my list to create too. I will speak to JLTRT..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Gone slightly off topic but no worries, I'd say that if the Heljan version is released with the split centre boxes, just cutting out the centre bar and replacing the glazing would give a decent 46. Of course, there is then the triangular bodyside vent to think about..... Right, getting things back on topic, I have posted progress of my class 25 conversion on FB. Recent work has involved "Dual braking" the model..... https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ or you can see progress on Western Thunder or Modellers United. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The bodywork is now complete on my Heljan 25. Paint is yet to be applied but you can see the results here..... https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Hi all. I've just posted a video of progress on my 25 conversion from the Heljan model. You can see the update here. https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold uk_pm Posted February 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2017 Has anyone attempted to change the headcodes on their 25? If so, how do you do it? Mine seems glued solid. All advice gratefully received. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I have to agree with Peter the head code seems impossible to change without breaking something. What a pity. Other Heljans are changeable fairly easy. Norman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I removed the glazing VERY carefully from the front using a sharp knife to prise it out but getting the "gubbins" from behind took what I would describe as "gentle force"..... HTH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hi all. My conversion work on the 25 is finished. The loco can be found here..... https://www.facebook.com/groups/987152598004135/ Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted July 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2017 A quick question please. Does anybody know the current consumption of the fan motor in the 25? Wanting to connect it to a DCC decoder output. Thanks, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) Good afternoon, just thought i’d reassurect this thread, I have just had my Heljan 25/1 finished by my good Friend Jintyman, here is picture below of the work stained mundane Rat, it is 5202 in its 1972 guise from a picture of it when it was stabled at Taunton during its working life. David has made a stunning job of the sound fitment and weathering, below is the link to Jinty’s WB and on that page is the YouTube video, but for now below here it is on David’s plank, I hope it helps the nay sayers to see what can be done with this model. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/115561-jintys-wb-for-7mm/page-32&do=findComment&comment=3137348 Edited April 23, 2018 by muddys-blues 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Looks brilliant, like a proper dirty loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Good afternoon, just thought i’d reassurect this thread, I have just had my Heljan 25/1 finished by my good Friend Jintyman, here is picture below of the work stained mundane Rat, it is 5202 in its 1972 guise from a picture of it when it was stabled at Taunton during its working life. David has made a stunning job of the sound fitment and weathering, below is the link to Jinty’s WB and on that page is the YouTube video, but for now below here it is on David’s plank, I hope it helps the nay sayers to see what can be done with this model. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/115561-jintys-wb-for-7mm/page-32&do=findComment&comment=3137348 5CA0A31C-4049-46E1-BC39-12403171B573.jpeg And thanks to Craig and David / Jintyman, mine will arrive in a few weeks for my North Wales Line. STUNNING. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Penguin 0f Doom Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Good afternoon, just thought i’d reassurect this thread, I have just had my Heljan 25/1 finished by my good Friend Jintyman, here is picture below of the work stained mundane Rat, it is 5202 in its 1972 guise from a picture of it when it was stabled at Taunton during its working life. David has made a stunning job of the sound fitment and weathering, below is the link to Jinty’s WB and on that page is the YouTube video, but for now below here it is on David’s plank, I hope it helps the nay sayers to see what can be done with this model.http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/115561-jintys-wb-for-7mm/page-32&do=findComment&comment=3137348 5CA0A31C-4049-46E1-BC39-12403171B573.jpeg Lovely job that! Could I ask please where the speaker(s) is/are mounted? Mine are in the body but are a little muffled. Cheers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Lovely job that! Could I ask please where the speaker(s) is/are mounted? Mine are in the body but are a little muffled. Cheers. I can answer that!!! There are in fact two bass reflex speakers mounted above each gear tower, immediately behind the cab bulkheads on pedestals. Both speakers face downwards. I also cut away the motor clamps to create a plastikard platform for the decoder to sit on centrally where the original circuit board sat, but with more clearance for the decoder and adaptor board I use the Zimo MX696S decoder loaded with the Digitrains Activedrive sound project which was originally put together by Paul Chetter. I don't have any pictures of the installation, but I can give you some idea by showing an earlier conversion that I'd done utilising the ESU Loksound L decoder and adaptor plate with the same speakers mounted in the same way. You can see the brass framework I've made up to support the speakers above the cardan shaft and gear tower. The only downside is that the roof fan is not motorised, but simply glued in the correct position on top of the speaker directly underneath the fan aperture. It isn't a downside for me as I'm not bothered that the fan doesn't work, I prefer the deeper bass sound. Jinty Edited to say: Sorry it's took so long to post the answer!!!!! Edited June 9, 2018 by Jintyman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) I can answer that!!! There are in fact two bass reflex speakers mounted above each gear tower, immediately behind the cab bulkheads on pedestals. Both speakers face downwards. I also cut away the motor clamps to create a plastikard platform for the decoder to sit on centrally where the original circuit board sat, but with more clearance for the decoder and adaptor board I use the Zimo MX696S decoder loaded with the Digitrains Activedrive sound project which was originally put together by Paul Chetter. I don't have any pictures of the installation, but I can give you some idea by showing an earlier conversion that I'd done utilising the ESU Loksound L decoder and adaptor plate with the same speakers mounted in the same way. You can see the brass framework I've made up to support the speakers above the cardan shaft and gear tower. Hi. Just wondering what size of resistors are required for the lights? 25 06.jpg The only downside is that the roof fan is not motorised, but simply glued in the correct position on top of the speaker directly underneath the fan aperture. It isn't a downside for me as I'm not bothered that the fan doesn't work, I prefer the deeper bass sound. Jinty Edited to say: Sorry it's took so long to post the answer!!!!! Hi. Just wondering what size of resistors are required for the lights? Edited June 10, 2018 by NIRCLASS80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Hi. Just wondering what size of resistors are required for the lights? I tend to use a 10k resistor to dull the LED's down a little as I find they can be a touch too bright. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I tend to use a 10k resistor to dull the LED's down a little as I find they can be a touch too bright. Jinty Thanks for the info. Time to get started into fitting sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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