Baby Deltic Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 slid along the grass verge (I don't normally go there). Don't you go trying to steal MJI's thunder! ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Spatial awareness, and the lack of it, affects ability to park within a marked bay: IMG_20170510_150602.jpg Not necessarily. If that was my car, I would need that much space in order to open my drivers' door properly and get out of the car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The car in the last photo would have been better parking nose in, so as to get as close to the concrete post as possible. Then you could have still opened the door to get in/out as long as the car next to you parked nose out. Most car drivers have no idea where the near side of their car is, and just wander along with the offside on or close to the white lines In the centre of the road. Try looking at a road that has no white lines down the centre, and watch what happens. Then we have drivers unable to turn steering wheels and will cut corners. Most motorsists don't actually drive their cars nowadays, they just go from a to b with the minimal input to the journey possible. That includes the use of brains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2017 The car in the last photo would have been better parking nose in, so as to get as close to the concrete post as possible. Then you could have still opened the door to get in/out as long as the car next to you parked nose out. Most car drivers have no idea where the near side of their car is, and just wander along with the offside on or close to the white lines In the centre of the road. Try looking at a road that has no white lines down the centre, and watch what happens. Then we have drivers unable to turn steering wheels and will cut corners. Most motorsists don't actually drive their cars nowadays, they just go from a to b with the minimal input to the journey possible. That includes the use of brains. Except when turning right, many drivers when doing so seem to get as far over to the left as possible and if traffic is coming the other way there can be a queue built up behind them before they turn right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Except when turning right, many drivers when doing so seem to get as far over to the left as possible and if traffic is coming the other way there can be a queue built up behind them before they turn right. The worst thing drivers can do when waiting to turn right is turn their steering wheel before it's clear to go, rather than keeping their front wheels straight. If they get hit from behind they could very quickly get shunted into a fatal head on collision with oncoming traffic. Edited May 13, 2017 by Baby Deltic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Not necessarily. If that was my car, I would need that much space in order to open my drivers' door properly and get out of the car. What, like this one at ExpoEM today? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 What, like this one at ExpoEM today? IMG_20170513_112633_1494671222471.jpg That's quite good for reverse parking; it is nearly straight! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 What, like this one at ExpoEM today? IMG_20170513_112633_1494671222471.jpg That is excellent parking. Driver has sensibly put as much distance as possible from the BMW & Audi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The worst thing drivers can do when waiting to turn right is turn their steering wheel before it's clear to go, rather than keeping their front wheels straight. If they get hit from behind they could very quickly get shunted into a fatal head on collision with oncoming traffic. And they keep their foot on the brake. Not only does it dazzle drivers behind, more importantly in a shunt situation, their foot will slip. And as they are probably still in gear, this encourages the car to move forward as well. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted May 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2017 What, like this one at ExpoEM today? IMG_20170513_112633_1494671222471.jpg What are the odds, that the driver was there first and since the car park was empty, it didn't matter how they parked! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Sitting at lights with your foot on the brakes also can end up with warped discs, as the brake pads will retain the heat in the disc longer than the bit that has no brake pad in contact with it. It is the same as sitting with the clutch depressed in gear, which can cause premature replacement of the clutch due to the thrust bearings taking all the load from the engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2017 Sitting at lights with your foot on the brakes also can end up with warped discs, as the brake pads will retain the heat in the disc longer than the bit that has no brake pad in contact with it. It is the same as sitting with the clutch depressed in gear, which can cause premature replacement of the clutch due to the thrust bearings taking all the load from the engine. The problem being that the same thing will happen if you use the handbrake, so is there an option?? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Sit at the back of a queue with your brake lights lit. Slightly reduces the chance that some womble will plough straight into the back of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 What are the odds, that the driver was there first and since the car park was empty, it didn't matter how they parked! What are the odds that said driver is still a selfish git regardless of arrival time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 What are the odds that said driver is still a selfish git regardless of arrival time? try parking in a near empty supermarket car park in the furthest corner from the doors and shop for an hour ? you can guarantee if there are five hundred empty spaces some arse will be parked one inch from your drivers door on your return Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted May 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2017 What are the odds, that the driver was there first and since the car park was empty, it didn't matter how they parked! Nope. Still massively selfish behaviour, even if he was the only car there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted May 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2017 And they keep their foot on the brake. Not only does it dazzle drivers behind, more importantly in a shunt situation, their foot will slip. And as they are probably still in gear, this encourages the car to move forward as well. Keeping your foot on the brake helps make the point to any cars coming up behind you, so it makes sense to keep it on (perhaps only very lightly, with the handbrake on) until someone is stopped or about to stop behind you. It's not something I generally do, just heard someone else mention it once and it sounds like a good idea. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 try parking in a near empty supermarket car park in the furthest corner from the doors and shop for an hour ? you can guarantee if there are five hundred empty spaces some arse will be parked one inch from your drivers door on your return It is a well known fact that Cars have a natural herding instinct and will join others for safety! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 You select herd gear apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted May 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2017 try parking in a near empty supermarket car park in the furthest corner from the doors and shop for an hour ? you can guarantee if there are five hundred empty spaces some arse will be parked one inch from your drivers door on your return My favourite in the local Tesco's is to look for the car parked miles from the entrance and then park next to it , When towing the digger, Truck and Trailer are 30+ feet long so I have been known to parked across several bays and then reverse up to the passenger door with the trailer. There was one instance when I returned to the truck that the car driver said "did you have to park so close to my passenger door" I replied"But I was here first".....he apologised and drove away. I would say I never park to block doors. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Actually, some cars have the handbrake as a separate drum inside the disc, so applying the handbrake will not cause the disc to be touched. Even if they are, the rears do less braking so have less energy and heat to dissipate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted May 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2017 Nope. Still massively selfish behaviour, even if he was the only car there. I obviously neglect to say that it was selfish,, which it is, as well as totally incompetent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted May 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2017 Keeping your foot on the brake helps make the point to any cars coming up behind you, so it makes sense to keep it on (perhaps only very lightly, with the handbrake on) until someone is stopped or about to stop behind you. It's not something I generally do, just heard someone else mention it once and it sounds like a good idea. If you take the brake off, then a driver could easily assume that you are about to move off and so take their foot off their brake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted May 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2017 If you take the brake off, then a driver could easily assume that you are about to move off and so take their foot off their brake. I drive an automatic Jeep and always use the handbrake whilst at the lights but will now think differently! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 If you take the brake off, then a driver could easily assume that you are about to move off and so take their foot off their brake. I generally have the brake lights on until someone pulls up behind, at which point I release the footbrake or change to handbrake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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