Driving standards

[Reorte]

3 hours ago, Nick C said:

Maybe he already has quite a few points and is trying to avoid going over the ban-limit...

Could be but I think I'll try to assume the best for once. Doing so has novelty value, if nothing else.

[Sidecar Racer]

 

 

[Enterprisingwestern]

10 hours ago, Reorte said:

A surprising one on the way home yesterday. Car in front of me covered in stickers, loud exhaust, guy driving it looks the stereotype too. Ended up in front of me and carried on driving along in front of me within the speed limit, properly stopping at lights, and generally driving perfectly sensibly. So much for stereotypes!

 

 

8 hours ago, Nick C said:

Maybe he already has quite a few points and is trying to avoid going over the ban-limit...

 

He was p!ssed.

 

Mike.

 

 

[PhilJ W]

It had to happen...

[boxbrownie]

15 hours ago, Sidecar Racer said:

 

 

Very true though......on one occasion we were in Cologne and had to get to Frankfurt for the Motorshow the next day (press days actually) so the company laid on some drivers to chauffeur the suits of which there were several American colleagues, I had a Sierra 4X4 wagon at the time and decided to follow.......that was an experience!

 

Cologne to Frankfurt on the Autobahn following some native drivers in the dark.......it was fun and a bit challenging at times keeping up with half a dozen Scorpio Cosworths, but we made it, the yanks upon exiting the cars looked like they had been in a haunted house for a week 

 

Completely different driving culture.

[PhilJ W]

16 hours ago, Sidecar Racer said:

 

 

If you've come across the German traffic police you'll know exactly what he means.

[peanuts]

Have noticed a huge increase in dui incidents on the nw police Twitter feed of late this one takes the top prise 

[Sidecar Racer]

 

 This would be equally acceptable in the Things to make you Smile  thread .

 

 

Edited May 12, 2021 by Sidecar Racer

[PatB]

I am reminded of the occasion when I watched a Lotus Europa attempt the ford next to Tarr Steps clapper bridge. Even at the tender age of 11 I thought it was rather brave, given the combination of minimal ground clearance and Lotus/Lucas (and a smattering of Renault) electrickery. 

 

And no, he didn't make it. 

[Enterprisingwestern]

6 hours ago, PatB said:

I am reminded of the occasion when I watched a Lotus Europa attempt the ford next to Tarr Steps clapper bridge. Even at the tender age of 11 I thought it was rather brave, given the combination of minimal ground clearance and Lotus/Lucas (and a smattering of Renault) electrickery. 

 

And no, he didn't make it. 

 

Roger Moore didn't have any trouble!

 

Mike.

[boxbrownie]

11 hours ago, Sidecar Racer said:

 

 This would be equally acceptable in the Things to make you Smile  thread .

 

 

Frustratingly taken at a much slower speed probably all of those would have got through without issue, local garage/recovery must be raking it in 

[Guest]

When you do a hazard perception test what does it mean when there's a crowd of laughing people filming you?

[boxbrownie]

7 minutes ago, 30801 said:

When you do a hazard perception test what does it mean when there's a crowd of laughing people filming you?

It means your driving like a clown......

[Reorte]

34 minutes ago, boxbrownie said:

Frustratingly taken at a much slower speed probably all of those would have got through without issue, local garage/recovery must be raking it in 

 

There's that nonsense about "create a bow wave" that's been around for years, so that might explain it. As would just assuming it's no more than a shallow puddle, or not even noticing it at all.

[kevinlms]

11 hours ago, Sidecar Racer said:

 

 This would be equally acceptable in the Things to make you Smile  thread .

 

 

Having to go around a vehicle already dead in the water, would definitely put me off!

[Pete the Elaner]

10 hours ago, PatB said:

I am reminded of the occasion when I watched a Lotus Europa attempt the ford next to Tarr Steps clapper bridge. Even at the tender age of 11 I thought it was rather brave, given the combination of minimal ground clearance and Lotus/Lucas (and a smattering of Renault) electrickery. 

 

And no, he didn't make it. 

 

I wouldn't take my Elan anywhere near a flood like that (or my Honda Civic either).

If water gets ingested into the engine from a flood, it would be a major amount. Unlike air & fuel vapour, water does not compress very much at all. So something in the engine would fail, which either be the cylinder head or a con rod, both of which are very expensive mechanical issues.

A pair of shoes would be much easier to replace, but if the car stops in the water, you would need to replace them anyway.

[PhilJ W]

12 hours ago, Sidecar Racer said:

 

 This would be equally acceptable in the Things to make you Smile  thread .

 

 

I notice that one particular make, BMW seems to suffer the worst. Not a criticism of the drivers, it could be electronics in a vulnerable position. The worst drivers IMHO in that clip seemed to be those that knowing their vehicles are high enough to be unaffected by the water deliberately power through creating a large wave

[Titan]

38 minutes ago, Reorte said:

 

There's that nonsense about "create a bow wave" that's been around for years, so that might explain it. As would just assuming it's no more than a shallow puddle, or not even noticing it at all.

 

It is not nonsense, at least not in principle.  What is not emphasised is how slow you need to go to get the right sized bow wave, anything much above walking pace and it will be too big.  Often people are told you must go fast enough to create a bow wave,  when in reality they should be told to slow down to make a small bow wave.  The Audi with L plates at 6:22 shows how it should be done.

[boxbrownie]

21 minutes ago, Titan said:

 

It is not nonsense, at least not in principle.  What is not emphasised is how slow you need to go to get the right sized bow wave, anything much above walking pace and it will be too big.  Often people are told you must go fast enough to create a bow wave,  when in reality they should be told to slow down to make a small bow wave.  The Audi with L plates at 6:22 shows how it should be done.

Absolutely true, at any speed you’ll get a bow wave, what you don’t want is to go in fast enough to get a bow wave like HMS Ark Royal on its way to the Falklands!

 

Slow and steady will cause a small bow wave which will help keep a slight cavitation (basically stop the engine bay filling up to the water level) in the engine bay. This only works over short distances of course, after a good few yards the engine bay fills regardless, then you just hope you made the right call, and the designers put the intake in a sensible position 

[Compound2632]

1 hour ago, PhilJ W said:

I notice that one particular make, BMW seems to suffer the worst. Not a criticism of the drivers, it could be electronics in a vulnerable position. 

 

There's a BMW later on that gets through without trouble, so you might want to revisit your statement about the drivers!

 

On a personal note, I found it encouraging that the Zafira got through.

[stewartingram]

2 things I noticed.

Not 1 vehicle ( so it seemed) tried their brakes, to dry them after going through.

A small number of cars entered the water, then turned their headlights on!

[boxbrownie]

36 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

There's a BMW later on that gets through without trouble, so you might want to revisit your statement about the drivers!

 

On a personal note, I found it encouraging that the Zafira got through.

Luckily it put the dashboard fire out as it went through 

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, stewartingram said:

Not 1 vehicle ( so it seemed) tried their brakes, to dry them after going through.

 

MGs (the Chinese ones) boast of automatic brake wiping. Not a feature I've seen anyone else mention ever.

[boxbrownie]

26 minutes ago, stewartingram said:

2 things I noticed.

Not 1 vehicle ( so it seemed) tried their brakes, to dry them after going through.

A small number of cars entered the water, then turned their headlights on!

Lights could have been on “auto” which on most makes means if the wipers come on (as they may have getting splashed screen) the lamps come on as it assumes it’s raining.

[boxbrownie]

1 minute ago, 30801 said:

 

MGs (the Chinese ones) boast of automatic brake wiping. Not a feature I've seen anyone else mention ever.

Quite a few makes have “brake disc preparation” built in.