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This one looks expensive! Driving a Maserati through flood waters? Not the best decision!

 

More and its on topic, since under a railway bridge!

 

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Ah, you see, this is where the media got confused between a Maserati and a Maserotty.

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I've driven my old A30 over Welney Wash (Google the A1101 ,Welney, Norfolk ?) a few times when it was flooded.

For those that don't know, there is a major flood plain between the Ouse rivers, probably a mile wide, the road which twists and turns between the rivers becomes flooded to quite a depth. Nowadays the Safety Elves barricade the road to prevent the numpties in their SUVs and 4x4s, who always get stuck, from using it. Back in the 60s & 70s locals knew how. I've emerged at the other side, with water inside the car up to the top of the transmission tunnel (very deep in an A30 I can assure you). It would come in via the slot in the floor, on the rhs of the driver's seat, for the handbrake lever. The old gal used to purr over there quite happily; the next day the carpets were hung on the washline!

 

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Just been watching one of those Traffic Police programmes and I am sick and tired of them saying the crashes were caused by the weather/road conditions when they were actually caused by either driving too fast for the conditions or badly maintained vehicles!

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I don't think Norfolk people have quite got used to the Norwich Distributer Road, the NDR is a duel 70mph carriageway, it's Rare to find anyone doing 70, and several times I've had people using the wrong lanes at roundabout.

Mind you I can remember when the only dual carriageway in Norfolk, was two single lanes with a hedge down the middle. ( That road is still like that)

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One of my pet hates at the moment are daytime running lights.

During these winter months I've got a considerable mileage under my belt and the amount of numpties I see, driving on dark roads with just their daytime running lights on at the front astounds me. Also because most modern dashboards are now lit independently of any lighting, they think that their lights are on. And there is the crux, they think, or should I say, they presume that they have their lights on, totally unaware that they are a dark blob on dark and damp roads at this time of year.

The other lighting irritation is these turning spot lights that come on in the direction you are turning, is there any real benefit to them? I've seen some come on on quite fast twisty lanes, I thought they were for junctions and hard turns. The thing is, we've been managing without them for donkey's years, why now are they so important? I'm hoping to be educated on the importance of them.

 

Another one is the 'Middle Lane Sitter', the person who thinks that lane 2 is there because they are not a commercial vehicle and all commercial vehicles should be in lane 1. This is also prevalent on dual carriageways and two lane by-passes, where they will sit in lane 2 even if lane 1 is empty. 

This is an actual offence now, but I've seen police traffic cars turn a blind eye to it on a regular basis during my travels. It must be the paperwork involved.

Our local Constabulary will act upon dash cam evidence for bad driving now, and I'm seriously considering getting one and submitting some of the horrendous driving I see on a regular basis.

 

Jinty ;)

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I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that motor vehicles had to have pairs of lights at the front & rear, hence the illegality of the old practice of having one fog light & one spot light at the front.  I can't get my head round this new idea of one light coming on intermittently.   Does anyone know when the law was changed ?

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I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that motor vehicles had to have pairs of lights at the front & rear, hence the illegality of the old practice of having one fog light & one spot light at the front.  I can't get my head round this new idea of one light coming on intermittently.   Does anyone know when the law was changed ?

 

 

The law was that all lights on the front of a vehicle should be in pairs, head, main beam, fog and spots, but a single rear red fog light was acceptable. This was one of the things with the influx of the Japanese import vehicles of the 1990's, where a single fog light had to be fitted to the rear of all vehicles for its SVA test.

The lights that I am referring to are these 'Corner' lights that only illuminate when the vehicle is turning left or right sharply. I've noticed that some of them come on whilst on normal roads. I had one behind me the other week coming down the Lledr valley from Blaenau Ffestiniog, and his corner lights were coming on here and there on that road which is reasonably twisty but now quite open. I was wondering what is the purpose of these as if the normal headlights are adjusted correctly you should be able to see just as well on the open road without the 'corner' lights.

 

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I find corner lights a real godsend especially if you are diving down the narrow road where I live after the street lights have been turned off. I did disable them and regretted it soon after soI switched the function back on. Much easier to see the kerb when there are no road markings.

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I find corner lights a real godsend especially if you are diving down the narrow road where I live after the street lights have been turned off. I did disable them and regretted it soon after soI switched the function back on. Much easier to see the kerb when there are no road markings.

 

 

I believe that was what they were designed for, slower speed manoeuvring and taking of junctions, my puzzlement are the ones that come on out on the open road.

From what I have read (earlier on a car forum), they should not illuminate above 20mph. Not sure how accurate that is.

 

Jinty ;)

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Corner lights - I hate them. I was paused at a mini roundabout in March yesterday (basically a T-junction). I was waiting to turn right and this car approached with headlights on (another gripe of mine - absolutely no need in those conditions). The left corner light came on & I thought he was turning left into my road but didn't. I wasn't able to see any flashers due to his headlights being on, another awful feature nowadays. Good job I waited.

 

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One of my pet hates at the moment are daytime running lights.

During these winter months I've got a considerable mileage under my belt and the amount of numpties I see, driving on dark roads with just their daytime running lights on at the front astounds me. Also because most modern dashboards are now lit independently of any lighting, they think that their lights are on. And there is the crux, they think, or should I say, they presume that they have their lights on, totally unaware that they are a dark blob on dark and damp roads at this time of year.

The other lighting irritation is these turning spot lights that come on in the direction you are turning, is there any real benefit to them? I've seen some come on on quite fast twisty lanes, I thought they were for junctions and hard turns. The thing is, we've been managing without them for donkey's years, why now are they so important? I'm hoping to be educated on the importance of them.

 

Another one is the 'Middle Lane Sitter', the person who thinks that lane 2 is there because they are not a commercial vehicle and all commercial vehicles should be in lane 1. This is also prevalent on dual carriageways and two lane by-passes, where they will sit in lane 2 even if lane 1 is empty. 

This is an actual offence now, but I've seen police traffic cars turn a blind eye to it on a regular basis during my travels. It must be the paperwork involved.

Our local Constabulary will act upon dash cam evidence for bad driving now, and I'm seriously considering getting one and submitting some of the horrendous driving I see on a regular basis.

 

Jinty ;)

 

Also DRLs are very dazzly as well.

 

And what about fog light users when not foggy enough or not even foggy.

 

Those flashing front fog lights are very confusing but I did get one owner I know to go to the garage to get his car checked as I said he only had one front fog light, not realising they were these stupid flashing ones

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The law was that all lights on the front of a vehicle should be in pairs, head, main beam, fog and spots, but a single rear red fog light was acceptable. This was one of the things with the influx of the Japanese import vehicles of the 1990's, where a single fog light had to be fitted to the rear of all vehicles for its SVA test.

The lights that I am referring to are these 'Corner' lights that only illuminate when the vehicle is turning left or right sharply. I've noticed that some of them come on whilst on normal roads. I had one behind me the other week coming down the Lledr valley from Blaenau Ffestiniog, and his corner lights were coming on here and there on that road which is reasonably twisty but now quite open. I was wondering what is the purpose of these as if the normal headlights are adjusted correctly you should be able to see just as well on the open road without the 'corner' lights.

 

Jinty ;)

 

They are there to annoy you

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The law was that all lights on the front of a vehicle should be in pairs, head, main beam, fog and spots, but a single rear red fog light was acceptable. This was one of the things with the influx of the Japanese import vehicles of the 1990's, where a single fog light had to be fitted to the rear of all vehicles for its SVA test.

 

 

I think the law for compulsory rear fog lights in the UK was sometime 1980. I remember our Mk2 Escorts  had them bolted on as an afterthought.

 

I think single rear fog lights are still acceptable.

 

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Mick

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I think the law for compulsory rear fog lights in the UK was sometime 1980. I remember our Mk2 Escorts  had them bolted on as an afterthought.

 

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Pity it wasn't compulsory to teach people how to use them properly.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

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More not used to the NDR,

I was bimbling along the NDR in the landrover @70 when a car comes hammering past sees the temporary 30 signs slams on the anchors and pulls in front of me. I know there's another half mile before the roundabout, so I pull out rather than breaks heavily and go past him. Then i pull back in gently slowing for the roundabout.

Meanwhile he then pulls into the right hand lane to turn right at the roundabout.

 

Just leaving the round about I then follow a vivaro van at 20 mph!!! He eventually gets up to 40 mph, then slows as we past a road junction ( we are on the 50 mph A road). Slowly he speeds up to 40 then slams his anchors on down to 20mph at a speed camera. Then speeds up slowly and finally turns off.... Yippee!!!!

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I think the law for compulsory rear fog lights in the UK was sometime 1980. I remember our Mk2 Escorts  had them bolted on as an afterthought.

 

I think single rear fog lights are still acceptable.

 

Cheers,

Mick

I think it's the case now that a single rear fog light only is required by law on new vehicles (instead of twin).

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The law was that all lights on the front of a vehicle should be in pairs, head, main beam, fog and spots, but a single rear red fog light was acceptable. This was one of the things with the influx of the Japanese import vehicles of the 1990's, where a single fog light had to be fitted to the rear of all vehicles for its SVA test.

The lights that I am referring to are these 'Corner' lights that only illuminate when the vehicle is turning left or right sharply. I've noticed that some of them come on whilst on normal roads. I had one behind me the other week coming down the Lledr valley from Blaenau Ffestiniog, and his corner lights were coming on here and there on that road which is reasonably twisty but now quite open. I was wondering what is the purpose of these as if the normal headlights are adjusted correctly you should be able to see just as well on the open road without the 'corner' lights.

 

Jinty ;)

 

The tidy way of doing it is to use a Red LED lamp and a little rewiring and use the right hand reverse light as a fog lamp. Sometimes it's even possible to wire in OEM switches and the result is a car that keeps it's JDM outline and factory look inside without falling foul of the law. 

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