Driving standards

[Horsetan]

....I need to find out what was on the 'T' shirt... it just keeps on giving.

 

Look no further....

[New Haven Neil]

He'd have got done for Contempt if he had worn that here!

[Horsetan]

I had to search out the results of case, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/5335802.stm ....

 

What I like most about this one is the Mags reportedly banned him for three years.....and ordered him to take an extended driving test. I mean, the geezer's blind, FFS.....

[Guest]

What I like most about this one is the Mags reportedly banned him for three years.....and ordered him to take an extended driving test.

 

That is going to put the cost of his insurance up.

[chris p bacon]

That is going to put the cost of his insurance up.

His previous conviction was for not having any insurance (or licenses & mot) so I doubt he'll stress about it.

 

I like the Irony that he came here for "Safe Haven" but his presense has made it more dangerous.

[PatB]

 

Look no further....

 

Maybe he didn't know what it said .

[TheQ]

Having lived in an Arab country the locals will tell you that having insurance is a sin, because you are predicting you may have an accident,  everything is ordained by God (Allah)and you cannot challenge God. . So having insurance is going against the will of God....

Edited May 17, 2017 by TheQ

[Horsetan]

Having lived in an Arab country the locals will tell you that having insurance is a sin, because you are predicting you may have an accident, everything is ordained by God (Allah)and you cannot challenge God. . So having insurance is going against the will of God....

One of the first things that Iranians will tell you is that they are not Arabs.

[TheQ]

And an Iraqi as this gentleman is, will tell you he's not an Iranian

[Baby Deltic]

I resided in Essex for several years in the sixties, but managed to get out. I found Intelligent life can exist in other parts of the UK, including Sussex, Shropshire, Herts, Northants. and Suffolk.

 

 

Lovely Suffolk, that's where I live now.

 

When we drive down the A12 and onto the M25, we notice a definite change in the driving "style" the further south we get.More aggressive and "Me, Me, Me". Probably partly due to getting nearer to the centre of civilisation as the residents like to believe, A.K.A. London.

 

(Where's the irony button?)

As they say in Suffolk "that M twentyfiyuv, that goo rowund"

[Enterprisingwestern]

Actually - let me guess? Is it a Citroen? It wouldn't surprise me at all if it was. The linkage is probably made out of the dreams of children, and you have to activate it by brushing you eyelashes on the steering wheel...

 

Correct, and jealousy will get you nowhere.

 

Mike.

 

Edit.

Not only that, but the XM doesn't even have a handbrake.

Edited May 17, 2017 by Enterprisingwestern

[Horsetan]

The XM: what the Buick LeSabre would have been if the French had designed it...

[PatB]

What I like most about this one is the Mags reportedly banned him for three years.....and ordered him to take an extended driving test. I mean, the geezer's blind, FFS.....

 

To be fair to the magistrate there are some conditions resulting in poor eyesight which can reasonably be expected to improve or be corrected. Cataracts are the obvious one but I'm sure there are others. Without knowing what information the magistrate had before them, I'm not sure that such a condition was completely unreasonable.

 

I wonder if there is an element here, also, that with a formal ban in place it makes a stronger sanction possible should he be caught again.

[petethemole]

Also, if he has little or no vision, he can't take the re-test with his mate guiding him, so won't pass.

[Enterprisingwestern]

Also, if he has little or no vision, he can't take the re-test with his mate guiding him, so won't pass.

 

Also, how will he find the test centre?

 

Mike.

[Happy Hippo]

Horsetan is the legally qualified one here (there may be others), but  I understood the magistrates had to impose a ban as this is expected through the sentencing guidelines. The bench has to follow these when imposing a sentence.

 

In driving cases you will often find that where a charge of dangerous driving is disputed, the accused will plead guilty to the lesser charge of careless and inconsiderate driving. (Used to be driving without due care and attention.  Because they plead guilty, and save court time etc, they are 'rewarded' with a reduced penalty.  This is why some cases you read about what seems to be ridiculously light on the perpetrator of the offence.  There is nothing the magistrates or judge can do as they have to follow laid down guidelines.  The best they can do is impose the maximum allowed.

[Loconuts]

Horsetan is the legally qualified one here (there may be others), but  I understood the magistrates had to impose a ban as this is expected through the sentencing guidelines. The bench has to follow these when imposing a sentence.

 

In driving cases you will often find that where a charge of dangerous driving is disputed, the accused will plead guilty to the lesser charge of careless and inconsiderate driving. (Used to be driving without due care and attention.  Because they plead guilty, and save court time etc, they are 'rewarded' with a reduced penalty.  This is why some cases you read about what seems to be ridiculously light on the perpetrator of the offence.  There is nothing the magistrates or judge can do as they have to follow laid down guidelines.  The best they can do is impose the maximum allowed.

This is also due to current police policy (Informed by a member of the Police) to charge an offender with the more serious charge knowing they will plead guilty to the lesser charge. This is due to this bring in revenue for the Government. In the days when a person was charged with driving without due care and attention and the offender challenged the case in court resulting in the case being dismissed it cost the police and CPS money in costs. 

[PhilJ W]

When I lived in Burnham-on-Crouch 30 years ago there were a lot of elderly drivers who because they obtained their licences before the driving test was introduced (1935 IIRC) had never taken a test. If they appeared before the local magistrates for a motoring offence (which many often did) their licences were suspended until they had passed the test, which very few of them could.

[chris p bacon]

When I lived in Burnham-on-Crouch 30 years ago there were a lot of elderly drivers who because they obtained their licences before the driving test was introduced (1935 IIRC) had never taken a test. If they appeared before the local magistrates for a motoring offence (which many often did) their licences were suspended until they had passed the test, which very few of them could.

Dad was born in 1920 and always said he had to take the test which his older brother Arthur hadn't, turned out dad took his test on a bike and they gave him a car licence too. 

[PhilJ W]

My dad who was born in November 1919 said that he just missed out on getting a licence without a test.

[chris p bacon]

My dad who was born in November 1919 said that he just missed out on getting a licence without a test.

Dad was born Feb 29th 1920 so technically he wasn't able to take his test until 1988 when he reached his 17th birthday.  As was common practise his birth is registered as the 28th Feb.

 

I just looked it up and he was actually right, if you took your bike test they gave you a car licence.

[kevinlms]

Dad was born in 1920 and always said he had to take the test which his older brother Arthur hadn't, turned out dad took his test on a bike and they gave him a car licence too. 

But apparently testing was suspended during WW2 & during the Suez Crisis.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_driving_test#History

 

My wife's late mother never had a licence, even after coming to Australia. She reckoned that since she didn't require a licence to drive for the RAF, during WW2, she didn't need one here! Never did get caught. I hate to think what would have happened, if she had an accident.

[Unicorn1]

Being born in 1909 my father never passed a driving test, he was driving from about 1925!  He said the Army taught him how to drive properly in WW2.

 

His driving deteriorated quite quickly in his late eighties, and he stopped in 1999, but he would never admit that it was me or my poor mother (who had to endure the driving before surrendering to the local bus service in desperation) who made him pack up.

Les

[PhilJ W]

Driving tests did indeed cease for the duration and there are still a few drivers around who have never passed a test though they would all be in their 80's at least now. Someone who obtained a licence before the introduction of the test would be at least 98 years old now.

[raymw]

 

The light turned yellow, just in front of him. He did the right thing and stopped at the crosswalk, even though he could have beaten the red light by accelerating through the intersection.

The tailgating woman behind him was furious and honked her horn, screaming in frustration, as she missed her chance to get through the intersection.
As she was still in mid-rant, she heard a tap on her window and looked up into the face of a very serious police officer.
The officer ordered her to exit her car with her hands up. He took her to the police station where she was searched, fingerprinted, photographed and placed in a holding cell.

After a couple of hours, a policeman approached the cell and opened the door She was escorted back to the booking desk where the arresting officer was waiting with her personal effects.
He said, "I'm very sorry for this mistake. You see, I pulled up behind your car while you were blowing your horn, giving the guy in front of you the finger and cursing at him.
I noticed the 'What Would Jesus Do' bumper sticker, the 'Choose Life' license plate holder, the 'Follow Me to Sunday-School' bumper sticker, and the chrome-plated Christian fish emblem on the trunk, so naturally I assumed you had stolen the car."