Driving standards

[Guest]

One of YouTube's suggested videos for me.

 

A good example of an instance where a dashcam can save your bacon if the other party decides to lie. Although that wasn't the case here.

 

[Baby Deltic]

Audi? Say no more.

[peanuts]

One of YouTube's suggested videos for me.

 

A good example of an instance where a dashcam can save your bacon if the other party decides to lie. Although that wasn't the case here.

 

had someone in an Audi A4 do this to me on an off slip road whilst driving a fully loaded truck  result it became an A3 

[Enterprisingwestern]

Actually, some cars have the handbrake as a separate drum inside the disc, so applying the handbrake will not cause the disc to be touched. Even if they are, the rears do less braking so have less energy and heat to dissipate.

 

I'll stick with my house brick on a piece of string.

 

Mike.

[chris p bacon]

just a point that is not a "truck " it is what is known in the trade as a "puddle jumper " 

I reminded of the comment of why some people buy flash cars or quote that "their's is bigger" when compensating for an "Appendage" 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit. I just checked and it's listed, described and insured as a drop side  truck.

Edited May 14, 2017 by chris p bacon

[PhilJ W]

Theres no excuse for using the footbrake instead of the handbrake when standing in traffic. The handbrake if working properly is 'locked on' whereas your foot could always slip off the brake pedal. Using the footbrake when you should use the handbrake on a driving test is an instant fail. If you were waiting in a line of traffic and someone piled into the back of the line and your hand brake isn't on you could be held liable for the damage to the vehicle in front of you. With automatics you should always use the handbrake as it prevents 'creep' this is why many automatics have a stronger handbrake than their manual counterparts.

[stewartingram]

The problem being that the same thing will happen if you use the handbrake, so is there an option??

 

Mike.

Not on mine. I have a separate drum brake for the handbrake. And besides, the front brakes do more work than the rear so get hotter?

But you still should use handbrake when stationary.

 

Stewart

[Jonboy]

I had a skoda Octavia automatic on hire last year for a few days. When you stopped with the foot brake it stopped the engine under the eco stop/start function, when you released the footbrake it restarted the engine, regardless of the handbrake and park/Drive handle positions....so I could be green and and antisocial by holding footbrake on, or environmentally antisocial by running the engine when I didn't need too...

[Reorte]

If you take the brake off, then a driver could easily assume that you are about to move off and so take their foot off their brake.

When they're stopped behind you and you're at a queue for the lights I think it should be OK. It's about making sure that approaching vehicles from behind realise there's a stationary car ahead, and then not dazzling them once they've stopped.

[Southernman46]

Audi? Say no more.

No No - Let me ............

 

I've just driven back to Wiltshire from work at Beckton via the M25 & M3 ..... almost every Audi ...........one word ......... C0ck !! ............ that includes the women !!

 

Also how do people drive at night with a very bright I-phone mounted directly in front of them destroying their night vision completely ..............

 

 

I need to eat - think my blood sugar is low judging by the above  

Edited May 14, 2017 by Southernman46

[peanuts]

When they're stopped behind you and you're at a queue for the lights I think it should be OK. It's about making sure that approaching vehicles from behind realise there's a stationary car ahead, and then not dazzling them once they've stopped.

but why all of a sudden do we need to let approaching vehicles from behind know we are stopped with break lights ? surley they can see you are at or close to a junction or traffic lights without the help of brake lights or am i missing something ?

[PhilJ W]

but why all of a sudden do we need to let approaching vehicles from behind know we are stopped with break lights ? surley they can see you are at or close to a junction or traffic lights without the help of brake lights or am i missing something ?

If they had been observing the traffic properly they should be aware of traffic in front of them slowing/stopping.

[njee20]

The issue I have my with automatic (DSG Golf) is that I have to have my foot on the brake pedal to take it out of neutral. So at the very least I have to stop, brake, take car out of gear, handbrake on, Handbrake off, brake, put car into gear.

 

If waiting at a level crossing or something it's not too bad, but the need to brake before putting it back in gear means that if I'm at a roundabout, or anywhere I'll need to 'nip out' the only real option is to sit with my foot on the brake pedal.

[Norm81]

If they had been observing the traffic properly they should be aware of traffic in front of them slowing/stopping.

But they don't, as the rear of my Ford Escort found out in 2006 when someone piled into me at 30mph without even attempting to brake. So I understand why people keep the brake pedal pressed down until the car approaching looks like it will stop in time.

 

If it makes people feel safer then fine, but once the car behind has stopped get off the pedal as modern brake lights are extremely bright!

[jjb1970]

Yesterday we had a family day out at a national trust property. While getting ready to drive home a Toyota RAV 4, parked nose in, reversed into a 17 plate BMW and gouged the front end. The RAV 4 driver got out looked and then started making to leave so I shouted over that I assumed he'd be leaving his contact details for the other driver to get in touch about the damage and recieved a torrent of abuse liberally littered with expletives. Then the blokes wife got out and joined in. And both of them looked to be in their 70's, I don't know why but for some reason I find there is something particularly objectionable when older people start ranting like drunken stevedores. By that time I had the phone out and was videoing it which got them even more wound up and they stormed off so I left my details on the damaged car and made a note that I had a video of the other driver in which his demented ranting admitted he'd caused the damage.

[4630]

...While getting ready to drive home a Toyota RAV 4, parked nose in, reversed into a 17 plate BMW and gouged the front end...By that time I had the phone out and was videoing it which got them even more wound up and they stormed off so I left my details on the damaged car and made a note that I had a video of the other driver in which his demented ranting admitted he'd caused the damage.

 

 

I couldn't initially decide whether to click 'like', 'agree', or 'friendly/supportive' (or come to think of it, 'thanks' on behalf of the owner of the 17 plate BMW).  Suffice to say 'good on you, jjb1970'.  I hope your positive action is appreciated by the owner.

Edited May 14, 2017 by 4630

[PaulCheffus]

Hi

 

I witnessed something similar in an ikea car park. Driver attempts to park car but hits the car parked in the space next to them. Then reverses out and drives off. I noted the registration and waited by my car while my wife went back into ikea. Owners of the hit car found and come back to their vehicle where give them our details and the registration of the car.

 

They report it to the police and the other driver says he left a note on the car (he didn't as I never left the scene). Police ask if I would be happy to attend court as a witness to which I agreed. Suddenly the driver admits liability.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

[Baby Deltic]

I must admit I've been driving a BMW 520d M Sport for the last week. Luckily I didn't have to do their 'drive like an @rsehole' induction. Looking forward to getting my VW Passat back.

[Horsetan]

Theres no excuse for using the footbrake instead of the handbrake when standing in traffic. .....

This doesn't quite work if, as in my old BMW, the recommendation was to keep the (automatic) gearbox in "D", even when halted at the stop line. Regularly changing between Drive and Neutral was thought to shorten the life of the clutch packs.

[chris p bacon]

This doesn't quite work if, as in my old BMW, the recommendation was to keep the (automatic) gearbox in "D", even when halted at the stop line. Regularly changing between Drive and Neutral was thought to shorten the life of the clutch packs.

In the Merc it's in the manual to stay in Drive but with your foot on the brake pedal, if you engage the parking brake it's best to press the brake pedal when you release it, so that you have control or it will run away.

In the truck (ex) being a manual, I knocked it in neutral and pulled the handbrake on.

[kevinlms]

But they don't, as the rear of my Ford Escort found out in 2006 when someone piled into me at 30mph without even attempting to brake. So I understand why people keep the brake pedal pressed down until the car approaching looks like it will stop in time.

 

If it makes people feel safer then fine, but once the car behind has stopped get off the pedal as modern brake lights are extremely bright!

That's the way I look at it. The hassle of someone driving into me, even if they openly admit liability and there is no issue with getting my car repaired, is just not worth it.

 

If the brake lights are too bright (mine as well as the vehicle in front), well that's just too bad.

 

But for bright lights, don't you have that bright tail light anyway on recent cars, so what's the difference?

[45568]

What, like this one at ExpoEM today?

 

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*Toyota*.......need I say more?

 

From the Land of the Slow White Toyota,

Peter C.

[TheQ]

I was in a DIY shed car park and had the really odd event of...

 

Elderly couple drive in misjudge it and hit the car in front in the next bay. Just as the low twenties owner arrives from the Shed. He shouts all Sorts of abuse at them, then leaps in his car and drives off....

 

 I can only assume the low 20s owner had no insurance and didn't want to hang around to see if the police were called...

[Reorte]

but why all of a sudden do we need to let approaching vehicles from behind know we are stopped with break lights ? surley they can see you are at or close to a junction or traffic lights without the help of brake lights or am i missing something ?

You'd hope so. Depends how far the queue goes, and a bit more drawing attention to the fact that there's a stationary vehicle in front of them won't hurt. After all you could argue why have brake lights at all?

[PhilJ W]

You'd hope so. Depends how far the queue goes, and a bit more drawing attention to the fact that there's a stationary vehicle in front of them won't hurt. After all you could argue why have brake lights at all?

Brake lights are to indicate that you are slowing down not stopped. Like indicators are intended to show other road users that you are about to change direction not that you already are changing direction..