RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 Your picture shows the roof yellow at one end and light sandstone ish colour to the right. My one has arrived with the yellow colour along all of the roof. Can you clarify what colour yours is yellow or sandstone ish, as I am sure you have not got one with a graded colour from one end to the other. Just a trick of the lighting - they're all primrose yellow. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim104 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Tried that first and managed to get one in after about 15 minutes. Then had to carefully scrape the blue-tak off the disc. I've also tried with blue-tak on the end of a blunted cocktail stick, but I've only managed to get a couple more in after an hour. And one of those won't go flat. I will try and get the 4th in tomorrow if my patience holds, but I don't think I'll be changing routes ay time soon …. If it helps...I cut off the top of a cotton bud and discarded it. I then poked the flat stick end into a tin of tacky wax. I then picked up the folded route disc with the 'sticky stick' and this enabled me to poke it into the hole on the body. Bit tricky but got all done in about 20 mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim104 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just a trick of the lighting - they're all primrose yellow. Regards, John Isherwood. Thanks John, just been catching up on the thread, primrose yellow it is then! I think a trip into the paint shop is needed, grey or grey dirty black I feel would be better. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 Thanks John, just been catching up on the thread, primrose yellow it is then! I think a trip into the paint shop is needed, grey or grey dirty black I feel would be better. Cheers Mine is scheduled for a grey roof and black wheel tyres - and Hornby Dublo / Peco couplers. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Mine is scheduled for a grey roof and black wheel tyres - and Hornby Dublo / Peco couplers. Regards, John Isherwood. Ditto, and I think I will need to do something about dulling / dirtying the shiny silver engine block. I have a feeling that by 1960 the original would have become very less shiny than that !!! Also considering whether to modify the bodyside window into the open position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoman462 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Received my green 10203 this morning and first impressions leave me most impressed. After admiring the considerable detail on the loco, I test ran it on my rolling road with no issues whatsoever, running smoothly in both directions. Looking forward to doing a loaded test run with a full length train of Mk1s at Rainhill MRC tomorrow night. With the weight of the loco, I am sure that 10203 will have no problems lifting the load. The jury is out however on the primrose roof. I will decide over the next few weeks if I can learn to like/accept it, weather it down a bit or just arrange for a visit to the paint shop to have the later grey colour applied. As it is, the loco certainly adds a dash of colour to the scene dominated with diesels traditionally sporting yellow panels on their nose rather than on their roof! All in all, well done Kernow, it has been worth the wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Received my green 10203 this morning and first impressions leave me most impressed. After admiring the considerable detail on the loco, I test ran it on my rolling road with no issues whatsoever, running smoothly in both directions. Looking forward to doing a loaded test run with a full length train of Mk1s at Rainhill MRC tomorrow night. With the weight of the loco, I am sure that 10203 will have no problems lifting the load. The jury is out however on the primrose roof. I will decide over the next few weeks if I can learn to like/accept it, weather it down a bit or just arrange for a visit to the paint shop to have the later grey colour applied. As it is, the loco certainly adds a dash of colour to the scene dominated with diesels traditionally sporting yellow panels on their nose rather than on their roof! All in all, well done Kernow, it has been worth the wait. Might be a rather clever ploy by Mr T and his team. Release the primrose roofed version first, which a load of folk have paid for and which have probably already have been banked, then release a green version with a grey roof, and maybe a weathered end of life WCML version, so that folk get tempted with another !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted July 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just trying to change the headcode discs on mine. Easy enough to get the white discs off, but has anyone thought up a simple way to plug the closed discs in? They're so small I'm struggling to work out a way to do this. Thanks I assume you are aware that there are three different types of disc, with differently aligned prongs for left side, right side and centre locations. Once I realised this, mine slotted in easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Your picture shows the roof yellow at one end and light sandstone ish colour to the right. My one has arrived with the yellow colour along all of the roof. Can you clarify what colour yours is yellow or sandstone ish, as I am sure you have not got one with a graded colour from one end to the other. Just the lighting. An impromptu shot on a mobile phone when it was on my small test track on my desk under my desk lamp. Roof is a uniform primrose yellow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Tried that first and managed to get one in after about 15 minutes. Then had to carefully scrape the blue-tak off the disc. I've also tried with blue-tak on the end of a blunted cocktail stick, but I've only managed to get a couple more in after an hour. And one of those won't go flat. I will try and get the 4th in tomorrow if my patience holds, but I don't think I'll be changing routes ay time soon …. I might not be much help because they don’t give me much trouble. I found the most difficult part was removing the white left and right middle discs because of the proximity of the lamp irons but even that wasn’t too bad. Just in case you aren’t aware (please forgive me if you are), the left, right and middle discs are shaped differently to suit the curved front. I hold each disc under my finger and thumb nails and place it loosely into the hole, holding the loco front upwards. Once it seems to be in the right place and not crooked, I shove it in firmly with the back of my finger nail. Good luck with it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Might be a rather clever ploy by Mr T and his team. Release the primrose roofed version first, which a load of folk have paid for and which have probably already have been banked, then release a green version with a grey roof, and maybe a weathered end of life WCML version, so that folk get tempted with another !!! Funny you should say that. The same thought occurred to me. Green version with a grey roof and nose doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) I assume you are aware that there are three different types of disc, with differently aligned prongs for left side, right side and centre locations. Once I realised this, mine slotted in easily. Thanks - I might not have spotted that. My own beast has landed and very fetching it is too. Will I be able to resist another...….. 10203 is currently trundling away happily on the rolling road and the headcodes will be dealt with this evening; Exeter on one end, Bournemouth on the other. Advised of despatch at 1207 yesterday, arrived just after 0830 this morning - Royal Mail. John Edited July 6, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 In case it’s of interest, here is 10203 in green with its bits attached and the LM Region express passenger headcode. Behind is Bachmann’s 10000 in the same livery. I prefer the Bachmann rendering of the green, which is not to say that it’s any more accurate or that the Kernow version is anything but good. The Bachmann roof is more like a yellow cream than a startling primrose. Unlike John Isherwood (cctransuk) I am going to leave the tyre walls white. When it’s done well, as it is here, the wheels don’t look as if they’re turning and at speed the locomotive seems almost to float. The effect is mesmerising. Each to his own. Another superb locomotive from Kernow. Many thanks! I haven’t filled the hole in the front buffer beam yet. I was cutting the swallowtail off the front coupling to do that when it shot off into the air. I’m going back to waste another hour looking for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Mine has just been sent. I paid fully end of January (ordered 2011) in case it helps people to guess where they are in the queue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted July 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2018 Mine has just been sent. I paid fully end of January (ordered 2011) in case it helps people to guess where they are in the queue. I paid on 9th January, sent yesterday (also ordered in 2011). So it seems they may have cleared everything before February. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) Warning: reading this post may damage your eyes. Please wear sunglasses. 10203 arrived this afternoon... Its a fantastic model but I think the warning panel was put on the roof by mistake ? One headlamp became detached in transit, and push fitted back on.. In case anyone is wondering what is the difference, 10202 also arrived today, giving me the fleet First the roof is very different As are the grill sizes on the sides Here’s both The floating bogie is worthy of merit, as is the detailed wheels.... It’s been a long story I ordered 10201 / 3 in December 2014 and I was so impressed with 10201 at Warley last November I added 10202 to my basket in January 2018, both arrived today. Really smooth models, weighty and excellent paint finish. My only question is how accurate is the yellow roof ? Edited July 6, 2018 by adb968008 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 My Bulleid Banana also arrived today. That yellow roof is going light grey very soon, as shown by the smidgin visible on the accompanying image. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted July 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) Having just reviewed my photos of 10203, I note that the last photo amongst them, probably taken at Derby after withdrawal, shows that the loco was fitted, probably late in life, with a pair of standard 'trumpet' horns in place of the whistle that was carried for most of its life. Something to bear in mind if, like me, you intend producing a 'parallel universe' 10203 which survive longer that it did in this universe. I also note that, despite the engine-room drop windows being open, the engines are not visible in photos. Mine will receive a coat of the same 'grot' that will be applied to the roof. Regards, John Isherwood. Edited July 6, 2018 by cctransuk 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lochlongside Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 My Bulleid Banana also arrived today. That yellow roof is going light grey very soon, as shown by the smidgin visible on the accompanying image. ladybirdbulleiddiesel.jpg A cracking little reference book - I treasured mine from new and still have it. It is contemporary with the liveries it portrays and it has colour pictures in it as well (on every loco portrayed !!) so no having to guess whether it is sunlight reflections or lining for example - life was so much simpler then 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoman462 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Received my green 10203 this morning and first impressions leave me most impressed. After admiring the considerable detail on the loco, I test ran it on my rolling road with no issues whatsoever, running smoothly in both directions. Looking forward to doing a loaded test run with a full length train of Mk1s at Rainhill MRC tomorrow night. With the weight of the loco, I am sure that 10203 will have no problems lifting the load. The jury is out however on the primrose roof. I will decide over the next few weeks if I can learn to like/accept it, weather it down a bit or just arrange for a visit to the paint shop to have the later grey colour applied. As it is, the loco certainly adds a dash of colour to the scene dominated with diesels traditionally sporting yellow panels on their nose rather than on their roof! All in all, well done Kernow, it has been worth the wait. Completed a loaded test run (11 Bachmann Mk1s) at the club tonight which 10203 lifted without any problem, Very smooth, quiet slow running and at all scale speeds with plenty of power in reserve. The only problem encountered was after 30 minutes trouble free running, I turned the loco round to run it in the other way round. For some reason, it showed a tendency for one bogie to de-rail at the same point on the track over which it had previously run perfectly. Turning 10203 round to its original direction of travel, it ran without any problems over the same section of track. Not had chance to check back to back measurement or look for any other possible cause. The primrose roof was certainly a topic of conversation amongst club members. Weathering it down or repainting it grey was about 50 - 50 in comments made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 After seven and a half years mines turned up. I did wonder if i would see these while I could still wipe my own arse but the wait has been worth it. A very fine model even if the livery does look a bit bright. Runs nicely and quietly straight out of the box nearly on par with Hornby without the gear train rattle of the DJM class 71. Starting is smooth with a heavy load if not linear but is improved if a tad noiser with a feedback controller. Just a couple of overspray blemishes and a shame the painting of the radial axle ends and the void was deleted, I'll attend to that when I tone down the livery a bit. Here some of pictures 10203 in black. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) Wow..... just collected my model from the P.O. it is stunning.!!!! What a memory jerker it is, the first diesel loco I ever saw, at Crewe Station circa 1956 as an 8 yr old. It’s been a long wait, but Thank you Kernow for seeing this project through to a magnificent fruition.!!!!! Edited July 7, 2018 by 250BOB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted July 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2018 Well done Kernow, a magnificent model of a type few ever expected to see as an RTR model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium drjcontroller Posted July 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2018 Mine's arrived this morning, only had time for a quick look, the roof isn't as garish as I was expecting. Won't have a chance to run it for a few days but first impressions look good. The top headcode discs had both detached during transit and one of them has made a tiny scratch just above where the disk sits, but it's not worth returning it for that. Douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Mine's arrived this morning, only had time for a quick look, the roof isn't as garish as I was expecting. Goodness! You must have a vivid imagination! I'm thinking of toning my one's roof down with a day-glo yellow highlighter pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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