RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2016 spookily enough there was a programme about Porton Down on BBC4 just now. IIRC most western countries' justification for possessing banned chemical/biological compounds was "how can we ever find a cure/antidote to something if we don't have some to experiment on?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 1, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) Anybody read the news item about Norton Anti-Virus? Apparantly it was riddled with security holes. Google told them about it! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36672002 Keith Edited July 1, 2016 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted July 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2016 Since Microsoft now run their own security software, Norton et al are history for some of us. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Silver Sidelines Posted July 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 1, 2016 Have to agree Since Microsoft now run their own security software, Norton et al are history for some of us. Defender now in place of McAfee which BT provide and which I suspect monitors what we are doing - certainly McAfee slows the machine down. Thanks Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Norton Utilities was good, back in the day, but then Peter Norton's stuff got taken over by the outfit I mentioned back in post 901. 'Nuff said. This is the same that happens with many things. Bought out by a larger company, who don't care, or do not understand the way it worked, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 2, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Have to agree Defender now in place of McAfee which BT provide and which I suspect monitors what we are doing - certainly McAfee slows the machine down. Thanks Ray Always found McAfee a PITA and not very good at catching the crap it's supposed to do. Had a few nasties get through which I have never had (Tempting providence!) with Kaspersky My Brother in law found had exactly the same experience and yes, it was resource hungry as well. Mind you Kaspersky are probably tracking everything back to the Kremiln Keith Edited July 2, 2016 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted July 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2016 Since Microsoft now run their own security software, Norton et al are history for some of us. Please tell me you are not using Windows Defender to secure your PC. Even Microsoft themselves don't regard it as a serious security product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeeleyBridge Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Please tell me you are not using Windows Defender to secure your PC. Even Microsoft themselves don't regard it as a serious security product. You can't seriously consider running Windows if you want a secure PC. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 2, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2016 You can't seriously consider running Windows if you want a secure PC. You can't seriously consider connecting to the internet if you wan't a secure PC Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeeleyBridge Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 You can't seriously consider connecting to the internet if you wan't a secure PC Keith Of course I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted July 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2016 Defender's fine, just don't look at porn or be tempted by click-bait! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeeleyBridge Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Microsoft is fine, just don't look at Apple or be tempted by Android! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted July 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2016 Particularly paranoid one's... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2016 I use AVG, I found it to be very good with Windows XP on my old computer. I now have it installed on my new computer which has Windows 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted July 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2016 Well, after much prompting from MS and blatant attempts to do it for me, I have finally downloaded W10 (before the threatened deadline). Took several hours but largely went without a hitch. Lost CorelDraw 12 (or at least some of it) but was able to do a repair using the CorelDraw CDrom. Part of the Canon printer software went AWOL as well, but again sorted now. All other programmes (or Apps as we must now call them) seemed to work alright. Initial impressions? Seems a bit faster than W7 and has overcome a couple of instability issues I was having. Not overly keen on the "tablet" approach but I guess we'll get used to that. After all, it's for the benefit of the younger generation who seem to be permanently attached to their communication devices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted July 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2016 Well, after much prompting from MS and blatant attempts to do it for me, I have finally downloaded W10 (before the threatened deadline). Took several hours but largely went without a hitch. Lost CorelDraw 12 (or at least some of it) but was able to do a repair using the CorelDraw CDrom. Part of the Canon printer software went AWOL as well, but again sorted now. All other programmes (or Apps as we must now call them) seemed to work alright. Initial impressions? Seems a bit faster than W7 and has overcome a couple of instability issues I was having. Not overly keen on the "tablet" approach but I guess we'll get used to that. After all, it's for the benefit of the younger generation who seem to be permanently attached to their communication devices. If you don't like the tablet approach (I don't), then you can install Classic Shell & get the old menu style back. Other than that, Win 10 works well for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 some free ebooks about windows, office and stuff, may be of use, https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/mssmallbiz/2016/07/10/free-thats-right-im-giving-away-millions-of-free-microsoft-ebooks-again-including-windows-10-office-365-office-2016-power-bi-azure-windows-8-1-office-2013-sharepoint-2016-sha/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted July 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Microsoft's Windows 10 Anniversary Update is about to become available - next Tuesday for everyone. As I'm registered for Insider Preview, it was available to me from yesterday so I've been checking it out today. It's a full replacement with a version number of 1607, and the install process is much the same as with the 1511 version that came out in November last year. It took about 35 minutes on my main PC, but a lot longer on a slower laptop (about 90 minutes). The only noticeable change is that the start button and the list of apps is now combined. It makes a lot of sense and means you can access apps in one click rather than having to click the start button, and then "all apps". So far only a couple of minor issues: I use BT Mail and this started saying that IE 11 was an unsupported browser. The problem was due to compatibility settings and was resolved by going into IE, selecting tools -> compatibility view settings and then unchecking the box "use Microsoft compatibility lists". Also I used a download that defaulted to US English but it's easy enough to change that back (Control Panel -> Language). There are many other new things no doubt, but not many of much use on a bog-standard desktop PC like mine! The version number is 1607 and the OS build shows as 14393.5. Edited July 30, 2016 by RFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2016 I am so pleased that the free upgrade period for W10 is now over and I can use my laptop without constant intrusive ads from Microsoft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted July 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 31, 2016 A friend of mine tried to upgrade to Win 10 last week. It got stuck with the wheel spinning, it was left for 3 days without any joy. After following a new link, it started yesterday morning & about 8 hours later it was done. I spoke to him later & he said that it was working & he liked Win 10. Half an hour later I get a message.'I can't find Google, or my programs, or my password. I need it for the computer' Oh well.Probably the problem with Google is that MS has defaulted to Bing - useless! Looks like I have to go get him sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) The Anniversary Update is available as iso image file to save waiting for the download http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-iso-available EDIT - that iso file still take ages to download but at least you have a copy to use on other pcs if you need Edited August 3, 2016 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 As a last minute throw everything to the wind type thought after weeks of more thought, we eventually loaded W10. Not as simple as they said but only took an hour or so. Had much the same problems as has been already mentioned which were annoying and in some cases, frustrating. After a few days of further frustration it has finally settled down to the point I can switch it on without trepidation, at least up to now. There's not much advantage over W7 which I've used for ages and I can't fathom what all the fuss has been about or why I bothered. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 .. without constant intrusive ads from Microsoft. Sorry, what ads? #never10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeeleyBridge Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 A friend "is it safe to get updates again for Windows 7 now?". Me "Of course it is, by the time Windows Update finds anything to download you'll be dead anyhow." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) The W10 Anniversary update seems to keep most settings if you disabled a lot of system activities. It does put Cortana back on the taskbar if you have removed it but a right click allows it to be removed and it is not active. Classic Shell, if installed, needs to be reinstalled (there is a new version for W10 Anniversary). Also you may need to reactivate any non MS internet security software to some extent as appropriate. And of course there is already an update to the update! If you have set your pc to skip entering a password at logon that no longer happens without redoing it. Edited August 5, 2016 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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