Windows 10 . Anybody downloaded it yet?

[Littlethorpe]

Don't know if this type of issue has been covered previously but I have a very old version of Tetris that has worked on all my previous PCs but under Windows 10 all I get is "This App can't run on your PC". I know it's probably an 8-bit vs 64-bit problem but does anyone know of a solution?

 

David

[Pete the Elaner]

Can you run it in compatibilty mode?

Right-click on the shortcut or .exe , choose Compatibility & fiddle with a few options on this tab. In theory, it creates an environment which simulates older versions of Windows. I am not sure it always works though

[Butler Henderson]

All 3 W10 devices still on 1803 - could this be the start of W10 no longer being supported for some if your pc will not update to the latest.

[melmerby]

2 hours ago, Littlethorpe said:

Don't know if this type of issue has been covered previously but I have a very old version of Tetris that has worked on all my previous PCs but under Windows 10 all I get is "This App can't run on your PC". I know it's probably an 8-bit vs 64-bit problem but does anyone know of a solution?

 

David

Some apps/programmes have some preamble before the program proper loads and some of these can trip up on W10.

Occasionally I have found incompatible programs will work if you start the main program exe file with admin privileges.

I have a few old games like that "Chuckie Egg" & "Load Runner." etc

 

Even Lotus Smartsuite Millenium edition (the last) works OK if you miss out the autoloader and some preamble.

 

[Guest]

22 hours ago, Littlethorpe said:

Don't know if this type of issue has been covered previously but I have a very old version of Tetris that has worked on all my previous PCs but under Windows 10 all I get is "This App can't run on your PC". I know it's probably an 8-bit vs 64-bit problem but does anyone know of a solution?

 

Is your Windows 10 your first 64 bit OS? If so then Tetris is probably 16 bit. 32 bit  versions of Windows will run 16 bit software but 64 bit versions won't.

 

If that's the case the solution is to run a 32 bit version of Windows in a virtual machine. If you have an old Windows 95 disk or something you could get Virtual Box for free and install win 95 on it.

 

Or get a new version of Tetris

[Butler Henderson]

Laptop updated painfully slowly to 1809 over the weekend  - it started downloading Saturday evening and by Sunday morning was still downloading  - must have taken it somewhere around 18 hours to complete. The only new thing I have tried is "Dark Mode" which is obviously sponsored by The Twilight Zone as I found that in Dark Mode a right click in File Explorer gives a menu of white text on a white background. Needless to say Dark Mode quickly deactivated

 

 

[raymw]

Thought this was of interest, being of my time. If it was the system that changed the computing world, it certainly had its problems (brief history? of IBM 360).

https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-history/silicon-revolution/building-the-system360-mainframe-nearly-destroyed-ibm

[chriswright03]

Mine is still on 1803 and even though it updated today it still is.

[melmerby]

1 hour ago, chriswright03 said:

Mine is still on 1803 and even though it updated today it still is.

It seems as if you have certain Intel HD graphics the upgrade hasn't been offered yet in Windows update.

There was a problem when first released with versions of these graphics systems.

My all AMD 'puter updated as soon as it was on general release and the Intel based laptop (intel HD3000 + nVidia dual graphics) did shortly after.

SWMBO's laptop which is Celeron based with Intel graphics still hasn't and my Intel Desktop with HD4000 graphics I did manually. (It's version wasn't listed in the ones affected)

 

[melmerby]

The updates have becoming thick and fast this month.

There have been 4 official updates in May:

KB4510835, KB4495667, KB4494441*& KB4505056

 

*My main PC shows KB4494441 as being successfully installed on two separate occasions!

[Jol Wilkinson]

Mine too, KB4494441 installed on 15th and 17th May.

[Reorte]

I'll need to check whether mine's installed anything new recently then, because recently (last few days) it's not shut down properly.

[RFS]

1 hour ago, melmerby said:

The updates have becoming thick and fast this month.

There have been 4 official updates in May:

KB4510835, KB4495667, KB4494441*& KB4505056

 

*My main PC shows KB4494441 as being successfully installed on two separate occasions!

 

KB4494441 needs a 2-stage install for some reason - I suspect another fix installed at the same time caused this. It's been well reported and has affected other cumulative updates at times. KB4510835 is just an improvement to the way WU works and does not require a reboot. KB4505056 was an emergency follow-up fix because KB4494441 introduced changes to IE and Edge which were inadvertently blocking access to some gov.uk websites. 

[John Tomlinson]

FWIW I've had a problem since the March updates that a restart takes getting on for three hours. In the process Edge and the  Search box were rendered inoperable. This is on a fairly high end Dell tower that is two years old.

 

My local computer specialists cleared the Drive and reloaded Windows but the problem re-appeared after the updates last week. The annoying thing to me is that much of this stuff I almost certainly won't ever use.

 

In the process of clearing the drive my Apps went, and unfortunately I have no code to reload Photoshop Elements as it was purchased with the machine. So that's another £75 - £90 down the swanny!

 

John.

[PhilJ W]

Mine downloaded last night. The blue screen with the revolving dots saying 'do not shut down your computer' carried on for ages despite saying that the download was 100% complete.

[tigerburnie]

I am experiencing weeks of microsofts cock ups as well, someone in the know reckons this is getting windows ready for touch screen 'putters where we won't have a keyboard any more, mind boggles.

[Reorte]

4 minutes ago, tigerburnie said:

I am experiencing weeks of microsofts cock ups as well, someone in the know reckons this is getting windows ready for touch screen 'putters where we won't have a keyboard any more, mind boggles.

 

I got the impression that's what they were thinking a few years ago (it seemed to be driving Windows 8) but have realised it was a mistake.

[tigerburnie]

I looked at an Apple prototype pc with touch screen and no key board a couple of years ago(work were keen on them), don't know if they hit the streets or not.

[melmerby]

3 hours ago, John Tomlinson said:

 

In the process of clearing the drive my Apps went, and unfortunately I have no code to reload Photoshop Elements as it was purchased with the machine. So that's another £75 - £90 down the swanny!

 

John.

If it was a paid for version you should have the license code.*

Contact whoever supplied the machine.

Whenever I have had pre-loaded software (rarely as I usually install myself) I have also had a license.

 

* even the "free" versions supplied with printer or scanner have a license code. (I had two of those, both still work)

Edited May 21, 2019 by melmerby
more license info

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

Firstly, some apologies.

1. The answer to my question might be in the previous 77 pages, but ICBA to wade through them all.

2. What I know about computing can be written in block capitals with a poker on the back of a postage stamp.

3. I can only use my computer as a glorified typewriter.

4. I may be insulting the knowledge levels of most of you by asking this question.

, but, here goes.

I currently use Windows 7 on my laptop, (yes, snigger all you like, it's my level!), and from what I gather support will be withdrawn in the not too distant future, so it seems to me that I am being somewhat railroaded into purchasing a new laptop, (I'm aware I could upgrade the existing one but I might as well bite the bullet anyway). Now I understand about progress and that sort of thing, after all we're not still running round in model T Fords, but as a dumpling what fears does Windows 10 hold for me?, ie, how "simple" will transferring all my guff onto the new machine be and how similar to what I am used to will the new OS be?

 

Mike.

(Dusting off my Sinclair ZX80 just in case).

 

[melmerby]

6 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Firstly, some apologies.

1. The answer to my question might be in the previous 77 pages, but ICBA to wade through them all.

2. What I know about computing can be written in block capitals with a poker on the back of a postage stamp.

3. I can only use my computer as a glorified typewriter.

4. I may be insulting the knowledge levels of most of you by asking this question.

, but, here goes.

I currently use Windows 7 on my laptop, (yes, snigger all you like, it's my level!), and from what I gather support will be withdrawn in the not too distant future, so it seems to me that I am being somewhat railroaded into purchasing a new laptop, (I'm aware I could upgrade the existing one but I might as well bite the bullet anyway). Now I understand about progress and that sort of thing, after all we're not still running round in model T Fords, but as a dumpling what fears does Windows 10 hold for me?, ie, how "simple" will transferring all my guff onto the new machine be and how similar to what I am used to will the new OS be?

 

Mike.

(Dusting off my Sinclair ZX80 just in case).

 

Hi Mike

You can make Win 10 work very similarly to Win 7 by deleting all the tiles for programs/apps that appear on the desktop with a new install.

Many of these are such things as links to games, weather reports, news etc. and can be safely deleted once they are off the desktop.

Then you just have the on screen icons on the desktop as before as well as the pop-up with the programs when you click the Windows icon (bottom left on screen or also on your keyboard.)

If you have some sort of external memory (external drive, large USB stick etc. you can save all your documents/pictures/music etc. and re-load them on the new PC

Don't underestimated how much memory you have used, especially if there are any pictures or video!

Most things are fairly straightforward. Just ask.

 

 

[melmerby]

BTW for Tigerburnie's information.

There have been versions of touch screen Windows going back yonks (Win XP Pro?)

They pop up in POS terminals and suchlike.

Even the touch screen sat nav/media centre (which is also voice controlled) in my car has Windows at it's core.

Edited May 21, 2019 by melmerby

[tigerburnie]

Yes I understand touch screen been around for some time, just that it seems it is now gathering pace and keyboards are likely to go the way of floppy disc drives and quite soon too

[Reorte]

36 minutes ago, tigerburnie said:

Yes I understand touch screen been around for some time, just that it seems it is now gathering pace and keyboards are likely to go the way of floppy disc drives and quite soon too

 

The backpeddling after Windows 8 suggests that Microsoft has realised that this isn't going to be the case. So far no-one's come close to making a touchscreen that's anywhere near as useable as a keyboard for lots of typing, they just don't have the necessary level of tactile feedback. So whilst the numbers of keyboards might go down and it makes sense to support touchscreens the keyboard is here to stay for the foreseeable future IMO.

[RFS]

11 minutes ago, Reorte said:

 

The backpeddling after Windows 8 suggests that Microsoft has realised that this isn't going to be the case. So far no-one's come close to making a touchscreen that's anywhere near as useable as a keyboard for lots of typing, they just don't have the necessary level of tactile feedback. So whilst the numbers of keyboards might go down and it makes sense to support touchscreens the keyboard is here to stay for the foreseeable future IMO.

 

Totally agree. My 27" screen is an arm's length away and reaching it is a stretch. Plus I can type on this keyboard whilst having the whole screen in view, whereas a touch screen would need a keyboard layout overlaid on it somewhere.