62613 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 On 28/02/2020 at 05:42, mikesndbs said: https://www.watercressline.co.uk/article.php/83/b453433-br-lowfit-wagon Carrying a container! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2020 To be fair that one is not branded ‘not to be loaded with containers’ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Is the Red Panda chassis PA01 suitable for the Bachmann body? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I believe that these wagons were an LNER -design body on an LMS-designed chassis. Parkside PA 16 is the underframe for this- you get solebar/axleguard mouldins for both an LMS-designed chassis with J-hangers, and one without, which would fit under a Red Panda body, if you used the 4 shoe option. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Thanks Brian. The reason I asked is I have some Red panda p01 chassis kits and Bachmann lowfits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Michael Delamar said: Thanks Brian. The reason I asked is I have some Red panda p01 chassis kits and Bachmann lowfits. I guessed that might be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Thanks ive ordered some Parkside ones, the red panda ones will come in useful for something else in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 hours ago, Michael Delamar said: Is the Red Panda chassis PA01 suitable for the Bachmann body? I used Parkside LMS solebars for mine. IIRC the BR Lowfit came in three incarnations, none of which match the Mainline/Bachmann models. The first was effectively the LNER body modelled by Bachmann on an LMS clasp chassis. The later ones had steel bodies on LNER-style clasp brakes chassis, then some steel ones had 4-shoe brakes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Michael Delamar said: Thanks ive ordered some Parkside ones, the red panda ones will come in useful for something else in the future. They sit very nicely under one of the unpainted Dapol Banana Vans that can be picked up for a couple of pounds.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Would this be the same top as the body on the Bachmann/Mainline model? The chassis doesn't seem to match the 2 available from the PA16 chassis kit? That has the brake level pivot in the centre of the wagon not offset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Michael Delamar said: Would this be the same top as the body on the Bachmann/Mainline model? The chassis doesn't seem to match the 2 available from the PA16 chassis kit? That has the brake level pivot in the centre of the wagon not offset. It's not dissimilar, (and the bodies are near identical) but the one you've got there is the LNER version with a wooden underframe and that company's style of AVB - which is the Parkside kit. The LMS/BR version per the Bachmann/Mainine body does take the PA16 chassis. See this, for example: https://zenfolio.page.link/AnFNq Adam Edited March 20, 2020 by Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Thanks Adam. So thats a d1/109? Ill try a few of those Parkside kits. Im just cuting out a load of the PA16 chassis for Bachmann bodies. Some have broken J hangers on the left, must be when they came out the mould. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I had a few with the same fault recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, jwealleans said: I had a few with the same fault recently. I've not had that sort of problem on the many Parkside kits I've built ; are these post- Peco issue,? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Mine were in PECO packaging, certainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Mine were Peco. the red panda chassis have came in handy as it has bufferbeams but the buffers are not the same type. What buffers should I replace them with? many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The LMS chassis Lowfits were first in the diagram book: 1/001 (1/109s were riveted 16 ton minerals). Buffers. These, I think: http://www.lanarkshiremodels.com/lanarkshiremodelsandsupplieswebsite_065.htm The sprues from PECO speak of poor quality control and a moulding issue. Sortable, but not really acceptable. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Sorry I meant the one in the photo with the Anglia on is a D109 as per the Parkside kit PC66? Ive done 9 Bachmann Lowfits with new chassis today. Another reason for doing them is they came with insulated containers which I needed for some Conflats. Tried them on the layout this evening mainly to see how much fiddle yard space ive got. Can fit another 8 on so ordered 4 more Red Panda and 4 of the Parkside PC66 kit to try. Ill order some buffers. Theyve all got Smiths screw links. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted March 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2020 17 hours ago, jwealleans said: Mine were in PECO packaging, certainly. In that case I'd be contacting Peco and see if they will replace them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 26/06/2015 at 08:50, jjnewitt said: Hi Ron, The key lies in the fact that the hangers are pivoted on the underframe and are not fixed. This means that the arrows that you've drawn and circled actually go the other way. This arrangement is exactly the same as the hangers on the LMS and Derby clasp brake chassis seen previously. Justin Just to go back to the pivoting hangers, when we restored a Grampus a few years ago, we had to replace the pivot bolts on a couple of these hangers, and I took some photos of them for posterity, see below. We replaced the old bolts with new stainless steel ones, and if you look carefully at the ones in the top of the photo, they are shouldered and were specially made for us so that the hanger could pivot, and although on the Grampus the hanger movement was minimal, it did affect the even application of the brake blocks onto the wheels when the originals were seized up. Paul J. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Im still not 100% up on the variants yet but brake gear on the closest one at Liverpool docks looks different to the Red panda one? Also has instanter rather than screw link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) BR built with LNER brake gear. You can do this one from the Red Panda with the Parkside PA06 underframe or as Adam has pointed out the PA35 version. Some had the side verticals as above, some as on mine. I'd be interested to see how they roped them in pairs like that. Edited March 21, 2020 by jwealleans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Michael Delamar said: Im still not 100% up on the variants yet but brake gear on the closest one at Liverpool docks looks different to the Red panda one? Also has instanter rather than screw link. Nice pic. Nearest the camera is a BR build, one of a batch with LNER-type brakegear (like the Parkside kit which represents the two vehicles next to it). Parkside/PECO do this separately as PA35. BTW, PA06 is the LNER version with the pre-Nationalisation-type axleguards. Adam Edited March 21, 2020 by Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Thanks Gents there is another pic.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Dia 1/001 wood bodied LMS 8-shoe brake 400 built Dia 1/002 Steel body, LNER vac brake. 1000 built Dia 1/002 Steel body RCH 4-shoe vac 1200 built Dia 1/002 Steel body BR 8-shoe Vac 550 built Edited March 22, 2020 by Fat Controller Diagram numbers corrected following senior moment when posting originally.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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