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Tweaking the Hornby Clerestores - part 2


Barry Ten

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Back in the summer I spent a bit of time reworking the lining on the Hornby corridor clerestories:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/257/entry-18224-tweaking-the-Hornby-clerestories/

 

I wasn't done with them, though, and over the last couple of evenings I thought I'd revisit the project and take things
on a step further.

 

As a recap, the idea wasn't to end up with museum quality coaches - you wouldn't start from here, even if I had the skills - but
to see if it was possible to bring the Hornby models up to a level where they'd sit comfortably next to a nicely built and painted
brass model. The main work I did in the summer was to add additional black lining around all panels, and to paint in the droplights.
I also repainted the roof an overall grey.

 

Coming back to the coaches, I'd always meant to carve off the horrible, Godzilla-scale tension locks and their associated mountings.
So, out with the cutting tool, and short work was made of the couplings.

 

Next to the Mallard coach, the Hornby bogies look a bit too heavy, even though they're dimensionally not too bad. I found that a quick
and simple solution was to drill out some voids in the bogie frames, just above the stepboards. I used a mini-drill, chain-drilling the holes
to form the necessary voids, then cleaning up with files.

 

I then dismantled the coaches, removed the ends (a simple sliding fit) and cut away the corridor connections with a circular saw, followed by cleaning up until I had a flat mounting surface. I then made up a pair of MJT GWR bellows connections and glued them in place.

 

The coaches were re-assembled, and some additional detailing added to the ends in the form of brass wire for the handrails or tank filler pipes, whatever those curvy things are.

 

Fixing the bogies and corridor connections made a big difference, but I was niggled by the fact that the Mallard coach has the raised window surroundings picked out in the same colour as the droplights. The problem is that the Hornby moulding doesn't include these raised surrounds (bolections, I think) so there's a lot more "brown" than there should be. To get around this, I decided to have a go at lining in fake surrounds using GWR indian red in a bow-pen, which turned out to be surprisingly straightforward. I simply used a ruler to do all the horizontal lines first, then the vertical ones, and touched in the corners where necessary. To my eye this added the necessary element of busy-ness to the sides which was earlier lacking.

 

Here's a shot of two Hornby models either side of the Mallard coach. At least from normal viewing distance, they sit together quite well, I reckon. It's only when you get up close and notice that the Mallard coach has much shallower sides (and hence flusher glazing) that the differences begin to jar.

 

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As I think I mentioned last time, the shades of chocolate and cream are a little different, but again it's not too apparent in a layout context. Hornby's chocolate is a bit drab, a trend apparent across their GWR range. But there would have been prototypical variations in richness as well so I don't lose too much sleep over that.

 

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Finally, a side-on view of the Hornby brake, hopefully showing something of the opened-up bogie frames, with a bit of daylight visible above the step-boards. I'd still like to touch in some cream to the narrow vertical panels. These coaches will probably run in a fixed rake with simple hook-style couplings fashioned by brass or piano rod.

 

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I don't see too many of these coaches running on layouts, so I guess they're either out of period for the majority, or dismissed because they look a bit basic out of the box. But hopefully these tweaks go some way to making a reasonable model out of these inexpensive and widely available products.

 

cheers!

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The extra detailing on the Hornby carriages has done a good job and, as you say, they make a splendid rake together with the Mallard coach.  You mention "there's a lot more "brown" than there should be." and I believe all the printed 'mouldings' should actually be black.  Fortunately, the brown used by Hornby is rather dark so, on the narrow beading, this is hardly noticeable in 4mm scale.

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This is a good illustration of what I mean, Mike:

 

http://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/gwr-clerestory-third-coach-james-kerr/5465375

 

These raised window bolections (I've just checked it means what I think it means!) should be the same colour as the droplights, but on the Hornby moulding there is no such representation around the edges of the window, just a continuation of the base chocolate brown colour. On the Mallard coach these bolections are present and correctly picked out in dark red/indian red whatever.

 

You are right about the printed mouldings, I added black lining where necessary using a bow-pen. However as you say it's not immediately noticeable.

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Thanks for the clarification.  I've never examined these Hornby coaches closely, although I have re-painted old Tri-ang ones which might be inaccurate but do have 'character' :)

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I think the Tri-ang ones are very characterful models as well. I believe it's even possible to get some semi-accurate diagrams out of them with a bit of cut and shut. I have a pair put aside for the future.

 

As I might have mentioned in the earlier post, when Hornby published the pre-production pics of the new Clerestories, back in 1981 or 1982, they did look like they'd have full moulded detail, and it was a bit of a disappointment when they came out with flat sides and printed lining. But the newer printing methods seem to be able to add a bit of 3-d relief, it's just that's there is a bit too simplified.

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They look fantastic, Al. Your notes on the improvements are really useful for future reference, too. I suppose a next step could be to fit some new window grilles from Brassmasters?

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Thanks, Mikkel - you and Dave (Wenlock) must take the blame though, for your many Edwardian enticements. I'm just dabbling!

 

Yes, those grilles could do with looking at, perhaps after having a go at semi-flush glazing? I might be tempted to give it a go when I'm in the right frame of mind.

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Thanks, Mikkel - you and Dave (Wenlock) must take the blame though, for your many Edwardian enticements. I'm just dabbling!

 

Yes, those grilles could do with looking at, perhaps after having a go at semi-flush glazing? I might be tempted to give it a go when I'm in the right frame of mind.

 

I look forward to that. You have already created what must be the most convincing Hornby clerestories ever. You made me go and find mine in the drawer, which led to doodling of how the "Up Main" at Farthing might look. It's all your fault :-) 

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